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Mahdi
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Hi all

I am a humble beginner at this having started buying vintage watches 3 years ago. My first Omega purchased was this one here, its some "bumper automatic" from the 50`s is all the seller could tell me. However I realized its 14k solid gold and purchased it. It`s around 32mm in diameter and I have uploaded some photos.

Is it possible for anyone to help me ID this watch and get the reference numbers etc.

Also can I get an estimate on what its worth.

Thanks for your time.
 
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TexOmega
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Hope you didn’t loose a spring with the back off.


Reference number is the long number starting with 105......

Nifty #12

Worth gold value plus what someone will pay you for it.

Wear and enjoy.
 
Mahdi
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lol I did`nt lose it yet ...

Thanks will remember that bit about the ref no.

I read on another post that there is an omega database that gives info on vintage Omega`s, does anyone have more info on this ?
 
OMEGuy
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This appears to be a early bumper automatic cal. 28.10RA from maybe 1939 (movement serial # 9.783.019), not from the fifties, as the seller suggests. In your picture, one of the springs is out of place. I think your movement needs a service.

I don't know the watch reference (it's not the number inside the caseback).

The value? Maybe $400 - $500...
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vbrad26
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Yeah serial checks out to be late 30's but the rest of it....?
Looks like it would be a CK2581 but that does not really match...
 
momosono
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Case by Favre & Perret who were bought by Swatch Group in 1999 after which they merged with Breguet (also Swatch Group) in 2011
 
dx009
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Crown is most definitely a replacement. Quite possibly gold-plated...

The oscillating weight and the bridge holding it are of a completely different color hue than the rest of the movement so also a replacement... Maybe from an identical movement or one slightly similar, who knows...

The spring is pretty easy to replace, not an issue.
 
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dx009 dx009
Crown is most definitely a replacement. Quite possibly gold-plated...

The oscillating weight and the bridge holding it are of a completely different color hue than the rest of the movement so also a replacement... Maybe from an identical movement or one slightly similar, who knows...

The spring is pretty easy to replace, not an issue.
The weight bridge, if replaced contains the serial number, making identification nearly impossible.
 
OMEGuy
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Yes, possibly some movement parts have been swapped and the serial # of the movement doesn't indicate the age of the rest of the watch.

This watch from the late 1940s has a similar design:

http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/watches/classic/omega-automatic-bumper-movement/ome-613/

(No reference provided there.)

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vbrad26
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I'm still learning here too but it seems that the watch is older than the seller stated but not as old as the serial # suggests.

Edit: @OMEGuy beat me to it while I was trying to get my picture to work...


I found this picture and it states "1947"

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aaaand it still does not work, but it is the same dial.
 
dx009
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It's not a 1930s watch. It's definitely 1940s...
If the movement is indeed Omega 28.10RA PC then the watch dates to approx. 1943-1949... Sure looks mid to late 1940s...
I feel like the weight and bridge are from an older movement. (the serial number is definitely from an older movement, possibly a bit older than the earliest manufacturing date of this movement)
 
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Is this watch being sold from India or Eastern Europe?
 
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TexOmega TexOmega
Hope you didn’t loose a spring with the back off.


Reference number is the long number starting with 105......

That number is the serial for the case, this was practise on gold cases only after being discontinued on steel ones in the thirties.

I don't anything is necessarily incorrect here, it might be a case of parts being cleaned too harshly after having lost some plating. Omega serial numbers from the 1930s-1950ish are not really that easy to pinpoint to a specific year, but the only way to make sure would be to get an extract.


The Omega I could find that was most similar would be the ref. 2375.
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
That number is the serial for the case, this was practise on gold cases only after being discontinued on steel ones in the thirties.

I don't anything is necessarily incorrect here, it might be a case of parts being cleaned too harshly after having lost some plating. Omega serial numbers from the 1930s-1950ish are not really that easy to pinpoint to a specific year, but the only way to make sure would be to get an extract.


The Omega I could find that was most similar would be the ref. 2375.
KingCrouchy KingCrouchy
Looks like a Ref.2375 to me, size wise it fits. Movement too.

Les grands esprits se rencontrent...
 
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OMEGuy OMEGuy
Yes, possibly some movement parts have been swapped and the serial # of the movement doesn't indicate the age of the rest of the watch.

This watch from the late 1940s has a similar design:

http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/watches/classic/omega-automatic-bumper-movement/ome-613/

(No reference provided there.)
Sorry, but have to contradict as the lugs are totally different.
2375 as @KingCrouchy and @omegastar suggest is more likely or maybe a heavily polished 2581
 
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omegastar omegastar
Les grands esprits se rencontrent...
I feel honoured to have come to the same conclusion as more knowledgeable members of this forum.☕
 
Mahdi
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lots of info here - thanks for all the help, but now I need help understanding all this 🤔. So the general concusses is that its a Ref 2375 or 2581.

Will it be wise to search watches trading at that price to get an idea of what its really worth ?

Also I had no idea all this was so much of detail, is there no book I can read to gain a knowledge this ?
 
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