I really want to find a 145.012 cal 321, but would really prefer a very nice condition near mint example. Is that too much to ask for? Do they come around and I just need to be more patient? Should I just accept the fact that it is going to look pretty rough?

Thanks.

 

Patience, patience, or alternatively widen your target model.

 

It's a question of time and also how much extra do you want to pay for a mint example

 

Something like this maybe?

http://www.chrono24.nl/omega/speedmaster-pre-moon-321--id3014319.htm?id=3014319&picnum=0&tab=details

 

I also get confused on what model I should be looking for.

I have read everything, everywhere on the Speedy and it seems like we just don't know EXACTLY what reference was on the moon. For instance, Chuck Maddox states that it was most likely 145.022. But others like Speedmaster101 state that it was 105.012. Omega is on record as saying it was 145.012. Do we know? And how could the first Speedy be purchased by NASA at a jewlery store in 61? Wouldn't that mean that a 2998 was purchased and tested? Did NASA test the 2998 but issue the 145.022?

I own a couple Speedys, but have decided that I still don't own a moonwatch unless it is THE moonwatch.

I think I need to take a break.

 

I like the moonwatch a lot, but luckily I am more keen to the Seamaster (300)
Good luck in your so nice jurney!

 

With endless patience and money you can easily find a mint example but obviously this isn't practicle.

You just need to find the balance point between price, condition and availability. Were exactly this balance point lies depends upon the individual.

 

I think it's pretty well confirmed that 105.003 and 105.012 were definitely worn on the moon, where-as the 145.012 probably was. The 145.022 wasn't and I don't think Chuck Maddox has stated that anywhere. If you want one 321 Speedmaster and you want it to have a connection to the moon landing, I'd get a 105.012. Probably a 66 or 65 year.

The first Speedmaster in Space was a 2998 worn by Wally Schirra but this was his personal watch, not NASA issue.

 

According to ChronoMaddox

"Here is the bottom line:

1. Omega has stated as fact that the first watch worn on the moon (as referenced previously) that the first moon mission was equipped with c.321 Speedmasters, ST145.012- 's."

 

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/omega.html

 

Nice link thank you.

So The guys on Apollo 11 wore different case #s?

 

Apparently, although there is that question mark next to Aldrin's. I have read the same elsewhere as well, but the source may have been the same.

Edit:
This cites Omega Museum working with ex-NASA person stating definitively they were both ST105.012.
http://monochrome-watches.com/exclu...ences-how-omega-speedmaster-became-moonwatch/

 

Here is a website you should check out. http://www.speedmaster101.com/ It's spacefruit's website.
I've bought 4 321s off of ebay. You need to be well versed in c321 speedmasters. Follow all of the ones for sale on ebay and you'll get an idea of what they sell for. Sometimes you'll find one that flies under the radar, although that is becoming more difficult. I think the general concensus is that the 105.012 and 145.012 are the models that actually made it to the moon. The 105.003 was flown and used in EVA, but I don't believe it made it onto the moon. The 2998 was the first Omega in space. Wally Schirra wore his own into space.

 

It seems weird that Buzz's would be different and coincidentally, missing.

 

Hi George. You know of any 145.012s in great condition that are for sale?

 

What do you guys think of this one?

http://omegaforums.net/threads/1967-omega-speedmaster-pre-moon-145-012-cal-321.19931/

 

my first laugh of the day - thank you.

 

Lume has pretty much gone, hands probably original but in not great condition, beaten up bezel, case back pretty scratched. Over priced in my opinion if from a private seller or from a 'dealer', if the dealer is offering none of the typical dealer benefits e.g. serviced, warranty (which may warrant paying a higher dealer price). A long way south of 'mint' if that is what you are looking for.