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Help Finding 13mm Sweep Seconds Hand for 35mm Medicus, Cal 23.4SC?

  1. rshroff Jan 9, 2023

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    Dear Respectable Members

    I'm looking for a 13mm (measured from the centre) sweep seconds hand (i.e. one with a 'bobble' weight on the end) for the following 35mm Medicus, Cal. 23.4SC (please see image below). The only viable option would be to find a donor watch but that is proving to be extremely difficult. Any help/advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks.

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  2. Dan S Jan 9, 2023

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    Nice looking watch. You may want to show a photo of another watch with the correct sweep hand so people can visualize what you are looking for.
     
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  3. rshroff Jan 10, 2023

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    Sure, please find an image below showing the correct sweep seconds hand.

    3796-Very-Rare-Omega-cal-23.4-35mm-Art-Deco-Stepped-Case-Steel-1.jpg
     
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  4. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Jan 10, 2023

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    Ref CK 2015, a nice and unusual one.
    Here in a 1940 French catalog :
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    Existed with luminous hands and dial, mine says hello :
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    Cal. 23.4 SC had second hands with either round or oval shaped counterpoise. We tried, with a friend collector, to understand if they corresponded to some specific models or periods (especially for the St Christophe), but there was no logics in what we found so I suppose both were used on same models and years.
     
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  5. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jan 10, 2023

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    Great information as always, thank you!
     
  6. rshroff Jan 10, 2023

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    Many thanks for all the informative and useful information. Lovely pic of your 23.4 with oval shaped counterpoise. My first choice would be a sweep seconds hand with the round counterpoise (i.e.., bobble weight) at the end, followed by an oval shaped counterpoise like yours. I'm guessing it may take a while to source one. Thanks again for sharing!
     
  7. rshroff Jan 16, 2023

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    Dear Respectable Members

    I came across this sweep seconds hand with round counterpoise, specifically for a "Weems" RAF Pilot's Watch, Ref. CK2129 on eBay:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1949527285...rentrq:b94d4e951850a744505edcc9fffef048|iid:1Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner NetworkPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    I believe Ref. CK2129 was powered by a calibre 23.4SC movement. Any advice and/or guidance would be most appreciative.
     
  8. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Jan 16, 2023

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    It’s for a NON weems RAF watch. The model shown by the seller is a CK 2292, with a 30T2 inside, not a 22.4SC.
    Probably non fitting.
    Anyway, a weems with 23.4 SC is much smaller than a 2015, its hand would be too small. I will post pictures this evening.
     
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  9. mac_omega Jan 16, 2023

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    Ronnie, the hand you show in this link does not have a round counterpoise - it has an oval (drop) counterpoise, so it would be only the second best choice.
    And as Yann has stated its for a 30 SC T2 movement
     
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  10. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Jan 16, 2023

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    As announced for comparison of dial sizes:
    CK 2129 (Weems) and CK 2015, both same 23.4 SC caliber but different diameter :
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    CK 2292 and CK 2015, different calibers :
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    CK 2129 and CK 2292, both WWII RAF watches but different calibers :
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    With a lot of patience and a bit of luck, you will find a proper seconds hand.
     
  11. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jan 16, 2023

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    Checked all Hands here. Nothing fits. Good luck ! .... Who knows the center second pivot diameter for 30t2/ 23.4 exactly? A good watchmaker will be able to adapt the tube ....
     
  12. rshroff Jan 16, 2023

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    Many thanks for posting these pics of your lovely pieces!
     
  13. rshroff Jan 16, 2023

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    1.4 x 0.65 / 0.15mm (23.4SC)
    1.70 x 0.95 x 0.24mm (30T2)
     
  14. rshroff Mar 12, 2024

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    Still no luck finding the correct sweep seconds hand (round or oval counterpoise) for my 35mm Medicus, Cal. 23.4SC - any help would be much appreciated regarding sourcing one.
     
  15. DON Mar 13, 2024

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    I took a look in my hand systems and found a random hand. Not Omega, but 13.10 mm with an oval end

    Only problem. It's red and I don't know the pinion size (never bought a hand gauge)

    Could fit or might need a reaming

    Can hold it down and using steel wool. Remove the red paint by going over it lightly

    It's brass base. Matching to hands. Toolmakers blue dye or find a blue permanent Sharpie and go over it

    Can have it if you want it. Pay the postage with FF of $1.25

    Let me know

    DON

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  16. rshroff Mar 13, 2024

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    Thank you so much for your kind offer and assistance. I am most grateful and appreciative of your help. Although it's not the exact match (Omega), the dimensions of 13.10 mm with an oval end seem promising. I shall PM you. Once again, thank you so much for your generosity and willingness to help. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Ronnie