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  1. ajv Dec 19, 2017

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  2. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Dec 19, 2017

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    Hi! Hello!

    Please and Thank you!
     
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  3. ajv Dec 19, 2017

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    Hello! I'm new here. My first post. I guess this forum isn't so big that people treat each other like anonymous strangers! Sorry :) Please let me know if I violate any other forum etiquette.
     
  4. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Dec 19, 2017

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    More and better photos.
     
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  6. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Dec 19, 2017

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    I can't tell for sure from the dial photo provided but it looks like the red in the 8 and 9 look to be bleeding.
     
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  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Dec 19, 2017

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    Walk away.
     
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  8. ajv Dec 19, 2017

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    So sad :( I'm new to vintage watches and was excited to find the one I wanted in such new looking condition. Then I started reading posts here about re-dials.
     
  9. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Dec 19, 2017

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    Too good to be true almost always isn’t. :oops:
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  10. jumpingsecond Dec 19, 2017

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    What did the seller tell you about the dial? Ask him if it's restored/redialed in any way and gauge his response.
     
  11. ajv Dec 19, 2017

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    Waiting to hear back from the seller.

    There's a similar watch on eBay right now, listed as having a "factory restored dial" with photos of before and after:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-19...7-1-Caliber-T2-plus-Omega-Buckle/391924025777Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    I guess that's still a re-dial and very undesirable?
     
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  12. DG GW Dec 19, 2017

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    Yes they are
     
  13. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Dec 19, 2017

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    Great example. No one here would want the restored dial. Take note of the differences so you train your eye to catch re dials. Subdials, Logo, Tachy scale, fonts ...just horrible.
     
  14. omegastar Dec 20, 2017

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    What is the use of the luminous markers, if the hands aren’t ?
    Historically wrong !
     
  15. omegastar Dec 20, 2017

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    I know, you can find your watch in darkness...
     
  16. keepschanging Dec 20, 2017

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    As some on here will know, to the limit of their patience, I’ve been trying to learn how to spot redials...

    My tips so far:

    - know the watch. ie, find an example that you know is right and then compare, on a microscopic level. That can be very hard though. There aren’t many pictures, especially high resolution, of many vintage watches. Trawl the internet. Buy books. Buy a 60x loupe for viewing in person.

    - buy from a seller that you trust. Once you have viewed the websites of enough dealers, I think you get an eye for those who are honest about their watches. If they don’t say that any of their watches have a restored dial in the descriptions online, that is a warning signal

    - be patient. A good version of that rare watch may not come to market for years. Don’t settle for an average example - if you’re like me, it will bug you to the detriment of your enjoyment of the watch
     
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  17. watchlovr Dec 20, 2017

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    I have one with 2 original dials.
    I’ll find a photo.
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