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  1. ct1824

    ct1824 Dec 13, 2017

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    So I came across this Speedy, and the dealer mentioned that the "white baton hands" are later replacements, but that the "hands are original to the watch and their tritium is consistent with the dial".
    I can't figure out if this means that the tritium was relumed, or just happened to aged the same as the older dial.
    Any ideas? I'm trying to figure out how this impacts value, as the rest of this watch is original, and the case is superb.
    Thanks for any advice!
     
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  2. maxbelg

    maxbelg Dec 13, 2017

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    I'd think the dealer means the hands were replaced some time ago with tritium hands which have since aged with the watch... Whether that's true is another question. The watch looks great though! Is it a 105.012-66?
     
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  3. ct1824

    ct1824 Dec 13, 2017

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    UPDATE: Dealer just told me that their "extended" description was copied/pasted from an older watch, and is inaccurate. The hands are 100% original apparently.
     
  4. ct1824

    ct1824 Dec 13, 2017

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    Yep! A 105.012-66CB!
     
  5. Davidt

    Davidt Dec 13, 2017

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    If it's a CB, the case certainly isn't superb.
     
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  6. Nla91

    Nla91 Dec 13, 2017

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    It’s a HF. Must be a mistake from the dealers side.

    I think it’s a superb example. Has been sold before. Very very few left in that condition.
     
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  7. ct1824

    ct1824 Dec 13, 2017

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    Yeah, upon looking at the case back, it's an HF. Dealer said it was a CB, plus mistakenly stated than hands were replacements. Not too sure if all these "mistakes" make me wary to buy this.
    How big would the price difference be between a CB and HF? Any reason a dealer would make such a simple mistake?
     
  8. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Dec 13, 2017

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    Dealers don't know everything. You'd think checking the reference would be simple enough though.

    Movement number is in the expected range for the ref?

    Looks nice from here.
     
  9. Nla91

    Nla91 Dec 13, 2017

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    I wouldn't worry either. They list many watches, so a copy/paste probably happens. Don't rely too much on the text. Look at the pictures - they will tell.
     
  10. Seaborg

    Seaborg Dec 13, 2017

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    It's a super nice one (I also think HF)!
     
  11. Davidt

    Davidt Dec 13, 2017

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    So dealers charge a premium for their pieces and can't be arsed to write individual descriptions, meaning the text is basically worthless, but that's ok - it's down to us to figure it out ourselves from the pictures???
     
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  12. MaiLollo

    MaiLollo Dec 13, 2017

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    To adress your point, I don't think the market differenciates HF or CB cased 66s. At least, when I was looking for a 105.012, I didn't care :)
     
  13. Tubber

    Tubber Dec 13, 2017

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    That is especially pertinent when the watch in question looks like the EW US$19.5K one on EBay.
     
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  14. maxbelg

    maxbelg Dec 14, 2017

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    Personally I wouldn't pay extra for a CB case even if it get's some extra attention. As a matter of fact I think the CB lugs are not quite finished yet and need some more work to avoid the funny polishing line..........:whistling:
     
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