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Hello new here but an avid Omega restorer and collector...

  1. 787Geoff Nov 21, 2019

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    Have been collecting vintage Omegas and restoring them for years. My job, airline pilot, allows me to source parts around the world at established watch supply houses. That way I get parts for vintage watches that Omega has not recovered.

    I will post some of the restos here but I thought this would be a good place to start. I just picked up an Omega Checker 1 (Witschi Q-Test 4100) in rather poor condition. Needed a watch tester, love LEDs and this one has many functions all covered for testing:

    Mechanical (any frequency)
    Tuning fork (any frequency)
    32kHz quartz
    Quartz analog
    Quartz digital.

    Plus it has an electronic module tester with mirror, battery load tester at three settings along with microampere testing and etc.

    Here is the machine before and after restoring to fully functional (as far as I can determine.). Just one thing wrong, pretty complex tester and I need a manual. Anyone got one of these and a copy of the manual for scanning?

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    Also known as a WITSCHI Q TEST 4100.

    Got this off Ebay for $400 with the displays working but in untested condition. No guarantees on accuracy or if fully functional. Well I love a puzzle and knowing the displays were okay I thought my chances of getting this fully functional would be 50/50.

    So it arrived well packaged and shipped from Europe.

    I noticed they writing in places on the main bezel for the supply voltage test section was corroded and missing. Case was very dirty along with the wood case. The wiring was for 220 volts but is switchable to 120 volts and with a European to American plug converter.

    Plugged it in and noticed the on off switch was hooked up backwards, that is the off was on and the on was off! This told me that someone had been inside the tester other then the makers.

    When opened I noticed some wires were broken from their soldered positions. The timing display function for 18000 and 26600 mechanical, 32kHz and Accutron tuning fork was displaying correct daily and monthly errors, more on that later. The voltage testing and internal voltage supply for testing were non functional (the side with broken wires).

    The mirror was loose and foam for the mirror was decomposed and also the white collar was completely missing on the test side of the checker. The white collar reflects light illuminating the under side (display side) of the module under test.

    Both LED red filters were loose and came off when the case was disassembled.

    So problem when I received it:

    1) wires not connected internally.
    2) loose ICs (they are all plug into sockets, amazing).
    3) mirror on testing side loose
    4) foam underlay for mirror which pushes up and into the large PCA decomposed.
    5) collar which surrounds the internal mirrored testing side missing.
    6) on off switch hooked up backwards.
    7) whether correct or not the electrolytic are all 33 years of age so they may be suspect.
    8) NO MANUAL or INSTRUCTIONS (any help here would be appreciated).
    9) wood cover stained and finish deteriorated.
    10) metal bezel had corrosion on surface as though acid had been leaked onto it.
    11) supply voltage writing missing due to the corrosion.
    12) red led filters both loose or separated from the upper face plate.
    13) missing probes for the test side of the checker.

    What I did:

    Electronics

    1) disassembled components.
    2) replaced all capacitors with like capacitance and 5% tolerance.
    3) resoldered broken wires to correct probe locations.
    4) upper PCA which contains the LED modules.
    - Removed LED blocks and cleaned all push button contacts as well as battery knob pot and PCA.
    5) main PCA cleaned and all ICs reseated after being treated with detox-it electronic preserver.
    6) cleaned the sensor pads being REALLY careful about the wiring under the detector PCA.

    Case:

    1) lightly sanded wood and lacquered with satin finish.
    2) cleaned corrosion off the aluminum bezel and cleaned up the engraved supply voltage writing.
    - Then filled in the writing.
    - lacquered the metal bezel upper and lower in satin lacquer.
    3) polished and reattached the LED red lenses.
    4) cleaned mirror and mounted on new foam.
    5) found a spray paint cap of the perfect size and colour to replace the missing collar around the mirror.
    - Cut to size and mounted it.
    6) added rubber feet to base.
    7) will remake the probes for the test side and already secured test probes.

    So the BEFORE pictures:

    As it arrived EXTERNAL:

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    Upper right closeup:

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    Upper center closeup:

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    Upper left closeup:

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    Over view: note the white collar on the right side surrounding the mirror on the testing side is missing.

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    Damage to the aluminum bezel at the supply voltage side of the checker (yellow box):

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    Wood with damaged finish:

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    As it arrived INTERNAL:

    Capacitor on main PCA (replaced).

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    Other parts of the main PCA with capacitors and dirt on PCA.

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    Broken wires to testing side of the checker:

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    Main PCA with shielding for smaller sensor pad PCA;

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    Sensor PCA pads obverse side:

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    Sensor PCA reverse side:

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    Upper display PCA with push buttons all cleaned:

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    Reverse of the upper display:

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    AND NOW THE REVEAL:

    The overview with lacquered wood and bezel. Supply voltage writing redone. All probe receptacles removed, sanded and polished then reinserted.

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    Three views of the pocket watch (18000bph) with the seconds per day displayed. You will notice the balance wheel button (far left is selected) as is the 60 second sampling button. Also note the green signal led (which beats in relation to the watch beat) as well as the red led indicating seconds per day:

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    The LCD push button is selected with green signal and red seconds per month now indicated. Sampling time is 5 seconds:

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    Voltage of a battery under test, the EXT V push button is selected:

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    Internal supply voltage being tested for accuracy. Output is being tested by my multimeters. Note the selector knob is abeam the 1.55 volt indicator, not bad accuracy! Note the SUPPLY V push button is selected:

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    Here the voltage knob is selected to the highest value, almost 3 volts. These two voltages and all between are typical LCD and LED voltage requirements.

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    Here is the accuracy of the voltage measurements:

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    And the capacitors removed:

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    The missing probes, which I will be making later, would connect to the module + and - testing points. The module would be upside down and the display would be visible in the mirror.

    There is an alarm button as well as a display button, again I need a manual to check these for functionality.

    So I think I have it working. The tested seconds per day and seconds per month in the above examples check well with the watches actual performance. I also tested a Bulova Accutron, Omega 300 hertz and my 2.4 analog Omega Marine Master all check. The Omega Marine Master clocked in at 1 second per month on the tester and that coincides with its actual rate!

    The quartz watches are divided into 32kHz, LCD and analog. The analog was used for the Marine Master so I guess it automatically detects the rates. Again I need the manual to determine what is what.

    Hope you enjoyed the posting, I will do a YouTube video with various aspects of its capabilities demonstrated.

    Best regards,


    Geoff
     
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  2. cristos71 Nov 21, 2019

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    What a great first post. Very impressive restoration work on the test unit too, I really admire people who are so technically skilled, it's something I'm really not!
     
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  3. steveb73 Nov 21, 2019

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    Absolutely amazing looking machine and restoration!!! I wouldn't know where to start on the wiring side of things, but I'd certainly enjoy testing everything I could find on it. Thanks for sharing it.
     
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  4. 787Geoff Nov 21, 2019

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    Thanks for the warm welcome.

    Wiring side of things looked complex without a wiring diagram but fortunately the PCA (board) was labelled at all solder points. So it was just a matter of cleaning up the board, replacing the capacitors and soldering the wires to the correct labelled test posts.

    My biggest requirement is a manual to get the full value out of this tester. On the electronic side (far right) there are many current and voltage testing probes as well as a dedicated alarm and display test function. These seem to be standalone, that is, the alarm module can be removed and tested as can the LCD panel. The voltage for the LCD panel probe when tested is 1.55 when the supply voltage is selected to 1.55 and the alarm voltage is half that at .78 volts.

    And of course, why different sampling times? Again a manual would help.

    Cheers
     
  5. Evitzee Nov 21, 2019

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    I can change the batteries in the tv remote, bulbs in my pinball machine and a few other things.....but I admire people who can take a decrepit machine and bring it back to life. Well done.
     
  6. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Nov 21, 2019

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    Very cool! Thanks for posting and welcome!!
     
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  7. olerofe Nov 21, 2019

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  9. Passover Nov 21, 2019

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    One of the most weired threads I have seen so far :)

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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  10. 787Geoff Nov 21, 2019

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    Wow, that helps from the NAWCC article and thanks for the link to eBay. Copied it to PDF and isolated the appropriate pages. It does answer some questions such as the capacitance sensing and the fact the ICs can discriminate between different frequencies of tuning fork and quartz crystals.

    Have emailed the seller for a scanned copy if he is interested (offered payment for time and trouble). Hopefully he will get back to me.

    Thanks

    Yes a wired discussion. Will post my 1965 Seamaster restoration next.
     
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  11. krogerfoot Nov 21, 2019

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    A deep dive into/loving restoration of outmoded technology? With wood paneling?

    I am absolutely here for this kind of post, and if there's a video of it, I will drop whatever fool thing I'm doing and watch that video. Hold my calls.
     
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  12. 787Geoff Nov 21, 2019

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    Will get a video out there with all the functions being used.

    I have a photocopy of the manual coming from an eBay seller, so awaiting that for a good video.

    cheers
     
  13. 787Geoff Nov 21, 2019

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    Passover, nice Connie avatar. Mine is the view through the HUD into the sunset heading west over the pacific on the 787.
     
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  14. chronoboy64 Nov 21, 2019

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    Wow, very impressive work and great avatar :thumbsup:
     
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  15. omegaswisst Nov 21, 2019

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    Welcome to the forum @787Geoff

    Interesting to see the Omega branding on the unit. Do you have any idea of when these were made?
     
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  16. 787Geoff Nov 21, 2019

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    86 is the date code on the ICs and my research including the link above to an NAWCC PDF confirms this. Yes, you usually see Witschi Q-test 4100 on the front. Guess that adds thousands of dollars to its value ;-)
     
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  17. izydor Nov 22, 2019

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    Wow. I have no idea what’s going on here, but I love it.


    Now it’s time for some watches pics. :)
     
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  18. DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Nov 22, 2019

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    Can we start with more about that pocket watch with power reserve? Please?
     
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  19. Socks Nov 22, 2019

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    That's an impressive piece of equipment. Have you suggested to Mrs 787Geoff that it should take pride of place on the mantlepiece in the living room...
     
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  20. 787Geoff Nov 22, 2019

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    Lots of watch pictures coming including restorations.

    The pocket watch is a 1920s Waltham Vanguard 23 jewel with up down indicator marked inside the case BNSF. That makes it a Burlington Northern Santa Fe railroad watch, lever set.

    Some of my Omegas, all these are restorations by me:

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    A before and after of my Seamaster 300:

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    Many more but will save them for another thread.

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    All my watches are restorations with, and when ever possible, NOS period parts. That only if the original part is too far gone for restoration. I do all my electronic restorations and most of my simple mechanical restos.

    Back on topic:

    Witschi just sent me a PDF of the original manual! Wow can this do a lot when it comes to electronic watches. I will have to get my two Speedmaster LCD (the ones that look like mini moon watches in digital) tested and adjusted.
     
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