Hello, I saw those Ulysse Nardin and Heuer watches and am not sure if they are original and unpolished!

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Thanks a lot. can you educate me how did you know so I can learn from your experience
 
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why are the images masked? These are almost the worst pictures I have ever seen for a watch on sale.
 
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Both are low end 17J Swiss movements. Heuer and Ulysee stamps are fake. I never understood why Ulysse Nardins are faked so often.
 
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Both are low end 17J Swiss movements. Heuer and Ulysee stamps are fake. I never understood why Ulysse Nardins are faked so often.
Blame Italy
 
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Both are low end 17J Swiss movements. Heuer and Ulysee stamps are fake. I never understood why Ulysse Nardins are faked so oftSam

Both are low end 17J Swiss movements. Heuer and Ulysee stamps are fake. I never understood why Ulysse Nardins are faked so often.
Same here
 
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Blame Italy
I truly love Italy😁. However, it appears that many sellers lack professionalism.