I've been researching for a long time and I'm having great difficulty in figuring out whether or not this dial has been refinished. I'm really hoping someone might be able to help as I've had people on both side of the fence.

It's a 1974 Omega Seamaster Cosmic 2000 with 1012 movement. I only really want to go ahead and purchase the item if the dial is original.

Any help would be massively appreciated.

Thank you

 

Looks original to me. But it's a bit more modern than what I normally deal in.

 

No "T Swiss T"? The dial and hands definitely have "T" (tritium) or at least lume. Yes? If it is re-done, it looks to be very nice.
I'll let someone else argue if there should be T's on the dial to indicate lume.

 

I had a similar, seems that the fonts looks ok

 

Looking at how white the luminant is, couldn't it be a service dial?

 

Yours looks very similar. A few minor differences I spotted are:
- The "S" for Seamaster
- "Swiss Made" spacing
- Date box square.
- No lume to the right of the date box.

Is it normal that these things vary between similar models?

Also if you don't mind me asking did you have difficulty when it came to servicing the watch due to the case design?

 

Thanks for all the help so far everyone. Any more opinions would be gratefully received.

 

Just following on from my last post I've managed to find a number of other watches online that differ from @tdn-dk's watch and match the one I'm looking at but the one thing that doesn't match up with any that I've found is the lack of lume to the right of the date window.

For example here's an old one that I found that seems to have some wear and therefore less likely to be refinished but the lume to the right is present.

Just to clarify the watch I'm looking at is 39mm in diameter and therefore not a smaller model which I understand sometimes omit the lume.

If I could just find a few pictures of similar watches without the lume to the right of the date window I'd be feeling pretty confident this is original but this has me doubting.

Any thoughts?

 

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

What do you mean by service dial?

 

At some point the watch has received a new dial during service. Common practise and would explain why it has no patina but still looks like it's an original Omega piece. I'm convinced that this is the case here.

 

I take it would be an original vintage dial sourced by a watchmaker or a factory fitted dial by an Omega service? Could it refer to both scenarios?

 

If it is a service dial does that impact the value of the watch? I'm not buying it to make money but don't want to pay over the odds?

Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the missing lume to the right of the date window? Seems a bit odd to me as I've had great difficulty finding any cosmic 2000's of this age that don't have it. I've found just one and that particular dial looks very suspect.

Thanks again for all the replies, really appreciate it. Great forum

 

You can also check from back side of the dial if the markers were taken off and then reinstalled 30x zoom

 

It's a dial produced by Omega (IMO it is of far too high and consistent quality to be refinished), probably installed during a service. When it was produced is anyone's guess, but I could well imagine it be quite a few years newer than the original dial, given the small difference in lume plots ("missing" one) and the colour of the luminant. Do you even know if it is tritium? Wouldn't be that surprised to learn that is wasn't, given the lack of discolouration.

The Cosmics aren't that collectable, and looking at the condition of the case back(and overall level of polish - compare to @tdn-dk s example) this example doesn't belong in the group of watches that would be interesting to hard core collectors - but it is a great looking, VERY wearable Omega. I'd wear it

How high the price ought to be, I have no knowledge of.

 

...So to answer the initial questions - No, the dial isn't original to the watch, but it IS an original Omega dial and it hasn't been refinished

(and the hands are service replacements as well)

 

Thanks a lot for all the insight everyone. Really appreciate it. Nice to hear it's an Omega dial! Makes sense that the hands have been replaced too; I didn't even think about that!

 

Enjoy it in good health.

 

For me the dial is original but refenished and was added lumninous dots. These dots are no regular enough to be autenthic. Moreover there is not T swiss made T marking. Which also mean that the hands were replaced. I Have almost the same at home. I'll check this evenning.

 

A fair amount of metal has been removed from the case in making it look newish...