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Grandmother gave husband vintage Seamaster for Christmas of 1961.. Help me identify?

  1. krillnasty May 28, 2018

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    IMG_5140.jpg IMG_5141.jpg IMG_5142.jpg IMG_5143.jpg IMG_5144.jpg IMG_5145.jpg IMG_5147.jpg Hi everyone!

    Family member recently passed and I was left with the watch pictured in the album below. We know that it hasn't been worn since at least the 1980s when my grandfather died. The note in the box is a "Merry Christmas" note from my grandmother to my grandfather, dated 12/25/61. Can you all help me with this one? Can't figure out too much about it. Thank you so much in advance!

    https://imgur.com/a/c8k1pse
     
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  2. efauser I ♥ karma!!! May 28, 2018

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    Please post photos, not just the link.
     
  3. krillnasty May 28, 2018

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    I'll edit the post one moment. Thank you.
     
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  4. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado May 28, 2018

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    Sorry, the Seamaster is a common 1960s fake, box is real though.
     
  5. Dan S May 28, 2018

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    Since this is an heirloom piece, maybe it would be a good idea for you to say what exactly you are interested in knowing about it.

    Edit: Too late, the answer came while I was typing. :)
     
  6. efauser I ♥ karma!!! May 28, 2018

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    Sorry to say, the watch is a fake.
     
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  7. krillnasty May 28, 2018

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    Wow. Thanks everyone. I had no idea they were even faking watches back then. Appreciate it.
     
  8. krillnasty May 28, 2018

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    So crazy to me! Were these watches really commonly faked back in the 60s? I am not familiar with vintage at all (I just have a 90s speedy) so I would love to learn. It's such a beautiful piece, sad to learn it is not legitimate. Thank you.
     
  9. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. May 28, 2018

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    Unfortunately yes.

    Odds are inside is an A Schild movement.
     
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  11. krillnasty May 28, 2018

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  12. Dan S May 28, 2018

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    Interestingly, it's still your husband's grandfather's watch, and maybe it was what they could afford at that time. This may be anathema to some collectors, but if it is an AS movement as @Foo2rama mentioned, it is likely a perfectly good fully-jeweled Swiss movement that can be serviced and used for decades to come. It can be an interesting piece of family history and a conversation piece.
     
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  13. krillnasty May 28, 2018

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    This is great to hear. There is a reputable local shop that I will bring it to. I will ask them to open it up and decide if it is worth tinkering with further. Appreciate your time :)
     
  14. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 28, 2018

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  15. Dan S May 28, 2018

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    Fun article! "Beware! They carry $100-and-up price tags – and they're worth less than $5 apiece." :p

    Unfortunately, that article suggests the OP's watch might have a cheap pin-lever movement. She will have to see what the watchmaker says.
     
  16. JimInOz Melbourne Australia May 28, 2018

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    Hey! That's a quality Swiss Made fake! :D

    Most in that style house an AS1130 or similar so the movement is quite legit, it's just that it never came from an Omega factory even though it may be engraved/rubber stamped "Omega".
     
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  17. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. May 28, 2018

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    Thanks Jim

    Yup the ones like this almost always have the AS movement. Not many of the super cheap ones survived.

    This one is higher quality, the dials not bad and matches lower end watches of the time. In fact I’d bet if it didn’t have the caseback markings on the outside many people might call redial and need to see inside.

    AS was a legit movement maker supplying for Tudor (Rolex) and many others in fact I’ve got a AS movement in my collection.
     
  18. Dan S May 29, 2018

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    Indeed, I have several A Schild movements in my collection, e.g. inside Glycine Airman and various supercompressor dive watches.
     
  19. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 29, 2018

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    Watches have been faked for a very long time - the Swiss used to fake US made pocket watches back in the day...
     
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  20. krillnasty May 29, 2018

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    I'll bring it to the local watch shop and ask them to open it up and will share the results with you all!