Gold content in a Vintage Omega Genéve 18k gold dresswatch 166.037 from 1968, 35mm???

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Hello, I am trying to find out how many grams of Gold are in the in a
Vintage Omega Genéve 18k gold dresswatch 166.037 from 1968
and also in a Vintage Omega dresswatch Sub-seconds 18k gold 14707 from 1960, 35mm?
Are they the same as the 18k Constellation models from that time or is it less?

Thank you for your help!
St.
 
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The easiest way is to remove the crystal and the movement and then weigh the case and caseback on a set of jewellers scales.
 
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I assume the OP does not have the watch in his possession 😁
 
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Yes, Mark020 & JimiInOz, I don't have the watches.
I am looking to buy. So I can't weigh the watches myself.
Just wondering if any of you have the numbers already.
I heard that with the Constellation it's about 31 grams.
With the Seamaster it seems to be around 33 grams.

Thanks for your help!
St.
 
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Your not buying based on the gold weight, but the overall watch and collectibility
 
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Hello Don, Yes I agree, but knowing the gold weight helps to asses the value of the watch.
I can research most of the other factors, I was just looking for some help with the gold weight.
 
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Hello Don, Yes I agree, but knowing the gold weight helps to asses the value of the watch.
I can research most of the other factors, I was just looking for some help with the gold weight.

but it’s only 1/5th of the value (technically)

case design, dial and movement condition. Model and brand name all add up the price

maybe 1 ounce of 24kt mixed down to 18kt. 35 grams on or about

doesn’t matter. 5 people will all ask different prices on the same watch

check EBay’s completed auctions for a end value you might expect to pay
 
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Too many variables to give you a figure for any particular reference.

Rule of thumb that I use is no more than 50% of total weight of watch (without band, of course) is the gold case. Then take that times fineness of gold to get gold weight.

Smaller men’s dress watches (say 33mm or less) are likely to have significantly less case weight as a percentage of total weight than the higher end models like a Constellation or Seamaster.

The national production cases from the US and South America would likely have less gold than an equivalent Swiss case, while UK or French cases tend to be equivalent to the Swiss weight, if not more.

It’s a very inexact science, as some watch cases even have base metal rings built in to secure the movement inside the case. Seamaster DeVilles have these.

Hope this helps,
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Too many variables to give you a figure for any particular reference.

Rule of thumb that I use is no more than 50% of total weight of watch (without band, of course) is the gold case. Then take that times fineness of gold to get gold weight.

Smaller men’s dress watches (say 33mm or less) are likely to have significantly less case weight than the higher end models like a Constellation or Seamaster.

The national production cases from the US and South America would likely have less gold than an equivalent Swiss case, while UK or French cases tend to be equivalent to the Swiss weight, if not more.

It’s a very inexact science, as some watch cases even have base metal rings built in to secure the movement inside the case. Seamaster DeVilles have these.

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa

Thank you! That helps!
 
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but it’s only 1/5th of the value (technically)

case design, dial and movement condition. Model and brand name all add up the price

maybe 1 ounce of 24kt mixed down to 18kt. 35 grams on or about

doesn’t matter. 5 people will all ask different prices on the same watch

check EBay’s completed auctions for a end value you might expect to pay

Hello Don, just for consideration:
If that would true and I buy a nice Vintage Omega Genéve 18k gold for 1600 Euros, the gold alone will be worth just under 1500 Euros.
So for me, it makes sense to check this out. I would have a beautiful watch and an investment in the gold to.
If the watch breaks and it's too expensive to be repaired or serviced - I still have the value in gold.
For me that is a factor in buying a 50-60 year old watch.
But I understand what you are saying.
 
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I love solid gold, but I acquire the watches for their own sake.
 
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@St.
You’re right in thinking the gold scrap weight is the base value for the watch.
Then, assuming it works, you can add some for an Omega movt.

To answer your original question, I believe the Seamaster you note is likely to be lighter than most Constellations ( but perhaps more similar to similar shaped hidden crown Connies)

Here is a thread that gives some accurate info about a gold Constellation.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/18k-constellation-weight.102388/

however, the ultimate value of any watch is not only in its intrinsic value but in its desirability and the condition of the case and dial.
 
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I have no interest in helping a new member publicly calculate the scrap value of a collectible Omega.
 
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@St.
You’re right in thinking the gold scrap weight is the base value for the watch.
Then, assuming it works, you can add some for an Omega movt.

To answer your original question, I believe the Seamaster you note is likely to be lighter than most Constellations ( but perhaps more similar to similar shaped hidden crown Connies)

Here is a thread that gives some accurate info about a gold Constellation.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/18k-constellation-weight.102388/

however, the ultimate value of any watch is not only in its intrinsic value but in its desirability and the condition of the case and dial.
Thank you!
Originally I was asking about Omega Genéve 18k, from 1968, 35mm and an Omega Sub-seconds 18k, from 1960, 35mm.
Thank for the link.
I love to get a vintage Omega.
Understanding the gold value just seems a smart move. For me, including this information into the process of finding the right vintage watch, is important. If I can get a beautiful vintage Omega, that I can wear and that holds most of it's value in gold, it would make the decision to spend that kind of money much easier 😀.
Thanks again for your help!
St.
 
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Gold is at an historic high right now. Your watch is not an investment. If you really love vintage Omega, stop thinking so much about melting it down and find a watch that will give you joy.
 
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I have no interest in helping a new member publicly calculate the scrap value of a collectible Omega.
Hello Dan. S., I was just looking for help in my decision which watch to buy. Understanding the gold value of a gold watch for me, seems not unimportant. I understand that it's only one criteria of many, but with the other criteria like condition, case, dial ... I was able to find out enough information to make an informed decision. I am trust trying to get all the correct info before spending a lot of money on a vintage watch for wearing 😀.
St.
 
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Gold is at an historic high right now. Your watch is not an investment. If you really love vintage Omega, stop thinking so much about melting it down and find a watch that will give you joy.
Dear Dan S. I am not sure why a watch can't be beautiful, an enjoyment and a good investment at the same time.
I was just asking for a little help 😀.
 
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Dear Dan S. I am not sure why a watch can't be beautiful, an enjoyment and a good investment at the same time.
Because it is not a good investment. In time, you'll understand.

And if you don't understand why a question about melting down a watch for gold might be offensive as your first post, you have not spent enough time on the forum to read the room properly. No questions about movements, styles, quality, dial variations, etc. Just gold value. It sends a clear message.
 
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Because it is not a good investment. In time, you'll understand.

And if you don't understand why a question about melting down a watch for gold might be offensive as your first post, you have not spent enough time on the forum to read the room properly. No questions about movements, styles, quality, dial variations, etc. Just gold value. It sends a clear message.
Dear Dan S. Thank you for the warm welcome in this forum. Hope you have an amazing day. St.
 
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You will get your warm welcome if you ever choose to introduce yourself, participate in the community, and show an actual interest in watches. At the moment, you appear to be a pawnbroker, trying to use the forum's knowledge to turn a quick profit.

Have an amazing day.
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