God Speed Blue Origin and Omega 3861 now Zero G flight tested

Larry S

I still believe that mankinds expansion into the cosmos will take the pressure off the planet. Perhaps develop a greater respect for it. Or we get tribalism, like “The Expanse”. We have no right to be behaving as we are, nor as Carlin pointed out, does Earth care if we survive. On that I agree.

Dan S

Yeah, that's what I mean by incremental advances after 60 years. In almost every other field of science/engineering, the advances have been transformational.

MTROIS

Honestly, if pictures like the ones below (try e earth rise over the moon horizon and the "pale blue dot") of our "blue marble", or accounts from Attenborough, astronauts and other explorers have not managed to convince mankind to respect Earth already, do you really think that aiming to colonize Mars will?
I am doubtful, to say the very least.
The reality is that we ALL have to realize that we are ALL in this TOGETHER... and if we do not manage to share more of the wealth around and relieve our "pressure" on the environment by consuming less and better, well, then I am not sure we will make it as a species.

And sadly, I am definitely not confident we will... but I hope to be proven wrong, for the sake of my kids and future generations.

Omegafanman

@MTROIS

With Omega being famous for the Moonwatch and all it will attract some people with an interest in Spaceflight. I am not sure why those threads are now frequently derailed by planet saving and relative spend discussions - over say automotive / golf / firearms etc which seem to avoid such comments. For example, there are 40,000 golf courses and I think the industry turns over £80 Billion or so - must be a better way to use that wasted capacity and prime crop growing land. There are food shortages don’t we all know - all people do here is waste time spotting what watches those golfers are wearing :0)

Thanks to you we have the laudable ‘’Our home Earth is crumbling in front of our eyes thread’’ (link below) which seems to cover the message well and strikes me as a good place for those wider green debates, so other threads stay on topic a bit more for people / content creators that enjoy them maybe.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/our-home-earth-is-crumbling-in-front-of-our-eyes.134132/#post-1821187

On that note I still think rapid overpopulation is the key driver - so we need less people.
Some countries need to have the standard of living go up a lot, and some need to go down and change a bit.

Now I am off to get a life for a few months/ no more tail chasing and a nice long break from here :0)

MTROIS

I didn't mean to derail this thread and was responding to a point that was made and which I didn't particularly agree with.

I am certainly a big supporter of space exploration... but with a true purpose, not a pi$$ing contest between two billionaires.
Anyway, @Omegafanman , I wish you a great break and please do know that I envy you, so may have to do the same as you... 😉

repoman

I'll keep my comments mostly constrained to watches... I wouldn't buy one of these "space tourist" Blue Origin Speedy's if they came available. I have absolutely no interest whatsoever, at any price.

eugeneandresson

I still think Elon’s starship will be better at landing / living on the moon than any of the competitors outdated and tiny designs. It just makes most sense…

Omegafanman

I tend to agree with you but there is a higher risk factor / depends on public sentiment to a crew loss (which has diminished over time)

Why Starship won't have an abort system... but should it??? | Everyday Astronaut

eugeneandresson

Well, taking a pragmatic guess here : apart from Earth take-offs (and arguably the moon, but that too depends), an abort system is a pretty useless redundancy as if the rocket fails anywhere else they are all pretty much screwed in anycase no?