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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskThis is getting to be stupidly hilarious. Don’t argue with multi billion dollar companies?
Gamestop frenzy
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...This is getting to be stupidly hilarious. Don’t argue with multi billion dollar companies?
But he can call them wrong.
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glownyc
·Yes we can, actually, we tend to be very smart in the game business, and it was verified with inbox 1 time dlc. We have MBA's and lots and lots of data and tracking. But please feel free to argue with multiple billion dollar companies...
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I'll believe when the other multiple billion dollar companies with very smart people who's main business is collecting data and tracking can deliver targeted ads that make me want to buy anything they're trying to sell me or even just things that are relevant. Hasn't happened yet.
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ExpiredWatchdog
·^^^Boy, if that isn't the case.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Okay, so if the data is not always right which is what you seem to be saying now. Then every 2nd user of a disc can not be labeled as a lost customer.
My point is your habits and experiences are not to be used to make business decisions. Use data.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentI'm confused. GameStop sucks because they help prevent multi-billion dollar businesses run by very smart people from earning even more?
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rcs914
·I'm confused. GameStop sucks because they help prevent multi-billion dollar businesses run by very smart people from earning even more?
Well the studios are kind of the "man in the middle" - and if one AAA title doesn't perform up to expectations it can tank the whole studio.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I'm confused. GameStop sucks because they help prevent multi-billion dollar businesses run by very smart people from earning even more?
you have developers who make the game, publishers that market the game and provide funds for development. Investors at the developer level...
the problem is for the people that actually make the game (developers) which are often small studios not part of huge billion dollar publishers.
It all trickles down to them, they are the last to be paid, which sucks as they actually made the title.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentOk, so why do they work so cheaply when others profit so much off their work?
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Ok, so why do they work so cheaply when others profit so much off their work?
the big boys own the online distribution and marketing channels, so in order to rise above the noise you need to be with them.
a small dev can’t even attempt to go console at this point. PC they could try if they keep scope and costs down and have great ninja marketing g and get lucky... but to do anything big with potential big rewards you need to prove your self with a mid sized title through the publishers who have the funding, to get the large funding from the publishers to afford to make and market a big title.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Data can be great but people tend to give extra weight to data that reinforces personal opinions.
any data analysis on this involves looking at raw data and testing for for a hypothesis. Then you flip it and test for multiple ways that you could get that apparent response but it would actually be due to other factors. It’s only confirmed when analysis of the data proves other reasons could not be the case.
seriously we are one of the largest industries in the world. We know what we are doing.
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glownyc
·Yes that is why we have MBA’s and are experts in data analytics. In fact most data mining techniques and theories came from the game industry and our large amounts of data.
any data analysis on this involves looking at raw data and testing for for a hypothesis. Then you flip it and test for multiple ways that you could get that apparent response but it would actually be due to other factors. It’s only confirmed when analysis of the data proves other reasons could not be the case.
seriously we are one of the largest industries in the world. We know what we are doing.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...None of that prevents selective picking and choosing of what parts of an analysts to highlight. Especially when expectations aren't met and people need someone else to blame.
esp since I already told you they ran a direct test and it supported the data with in box dlc, do I need to explain that test again? Also knowing that on modern consoles we can see when disks get transferred to new owners.
At this point I can only assume your trolling, as I’ve given clear and plausible reasoning over and over, and you think it’s different based on a gut feeling and no knowledge of the industry.
You win your right, you must have stayed at a holiday inn every night this past few days. Your smarter then the thousands of people at hundreds of companies that have looked at this issue.
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glownyc
·Do you really think we are that inept? That multiple extremely large publishing houses all made the same mistake independently? Something that affects the bottom line for eqch publishers to the tune of 10’s of millions of dollars if not more over a year and all titles?
esp since I already told you they ran a direct test and it supported the data with in box dlc, do I need to explain that test again? Also knowing that on modern consoles we can see when disks get transferred to new owners.
At this point I can only assume your trolling, as I’ve given clear and plausible reasoning over and over, and you think it’s different based on a gut feeling and no knowledge of the industry.
You win your right, you must have stayed at a holiday inn every night this past few days. Your smarter then the thousands of people at hundreds of companies that have looked at this issue.
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texasmade
·Do you really think we are that inept? That multiple extremely large publishing houses all made the same mistake independently? Something that affects the bottom line for eqch publishers to the tune of 10’s of millions of dollars if not more over a year and all titles?
esp since I already told you they ran a direct test and it supported the data with in box dlc, do I need to explain that test again? Also knowing that on modern consoles we can see when disks get transferred to new owners.
At this point I can only assume your trolling, as I’ve given clear and plausible reasoning over and over, and you think it’s different based on a gut feeling and no knowledge of the industry.
You win your right, you must have stayed at a holiday inn every night this past few days. Your smarter then the thousands of people at hundreds of companies that have looked at this issue.
I’ve been working in large multi billion $ companies (but not in the gaming industry) all my life and my experience is everyone is inept. Some are less inept than others and are able to take advantage of it.
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Observer
·I’ve been working in large multi billion $ companies (but not in the gaming industry) all my life and my experience is everyone is inept. Some are less inept than others and are able to take advantage of it.
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Observer
·If you’re still long GME, take a look at your portfolio. Lol
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