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From selling the Seamaster 300 60LE to a No date or BB 58?
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Al22
路Over the holiday christmas time I ha enough time to think about my watches.
I think I will add a Tudor BB 58 or the new SMPC. I can get the SMPC for the same price as the Tudor. So it麓s really hard for me which one I hould add?
I like both very much. I know I am annoying.馃檮 But I would like to hear your opinions.
Does have somebody both watches?
Thanks for your comments
I think I will add a Tudor BB 58 or the new SMPC. I can get the SMPC for the same price as the Tudor. So it麓s really hard for me which one I hould add?
I like both very much. I know I am annoying.馃檮 But I would like to hear your opinions.
Does have somebody both watches?
Thanks for your comments
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fskywalker
路I would pick the BB58 over the new SMPc. It is thinner and think looks better
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petay993
路Picked up the 58 just before Christmas.
It has actually ruined my watch collection because I can't bring myself to wear anything else, fits like a glove, wears about 40mm and looks incredible at any price but at 拢2,560 it is something of a bargain
Keeper!
It has actually ruined my watch collection because I can't bring myself to wear anything else, fits like a glove, wears about 40mm and looks incredible at any price but at 拢2,560 it is something of a bargain
Keeper!
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kuchars22
路Picked mine up last month too - stunning watch for the price. 70hrs or so power reserve, much more than Omega's 55hours I sold my 2016 Explorer for this watch (already had two other Rolex sports watches) so adding a Tudor 58 saved me money too. The 58 replicates the original size of the watch from 1958, so it's not chunky by some of Omega's standards. I love the vintage look and the hand/dial colour combination is the most legible in my collection (Batman/Sub).
P.S. I owned the SMP for 15 years, then the ceramic for a year. One of the most comfortable and versatile watches around, but if you've had one for years like me, or want to be a little different to the SMP (gazillions sold around the globe), then the BB58 is a great alternative to the scene.
P.S. I owned the SMP for 15 years, then the ceramic for a year. One of the most comfortable and versatile watches around, but if you've had one for years like me, or want to be a little different to the SMP (gazillions sold around the globe), then the BB58 is a great alternative to the scene.
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petay993
路I have the 16610 and they wear identically, 58 is the nearest thing to a traditional Sub and I even like the riveted bracelet.
My daily Diver rotation is a Seiko SBDX001 - little and large馃榾
Except I am not rotating anymore!
My daily Diver rotation is a Seiko SBDX001 - little and large馃榾
Except I am not rotating anymore!
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kuchars22
路Just to add to that, you can't compare a sub vs 58 per se - the Sub is probably the most iconic and copied watch of all time (I don't mean faked, but the style or appearance). Similarly, the sub is the BMW M3 of watches except that it's harder to buy new. The Sub is also multiple times more expensive than the BB58, it's in a different marketing/target audience league.
I would buy the BB58 now, and still wait for the Sub (you're lucky to even be in the list). You won't lose out on the BB58 even if you wore it and sold it.
I would buy the BB58 now, and still wait for the Sub (you're lucky to even be in the list). You won't lose out on the BB58 even if you wore it and sold it.
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kuchars22
路Correct! I had the Sea Dweller 16600 and the proportions are just like the BB58, only that the materials are perhaps much more modern and up-to-date. Just be aware that the bracelet screws are 1.0mm on the Tudor, and they are slightly sunk in, so Rolex (think they are 1.3mm) will be too big and run the risk of scratching the edges of the screw holes if you try a bigger driver
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VintageWatchIta
路Hi would keep the Explorer, probably because that Seamaster never hit me that much...on the other hand, I love the lines of 214270, and its proportions 馃グ
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Albe100
路Seamaster for me or the BB 58. That explorer is so bland compared to the Submariner. Also, IMO don't buy a watch because it will holds it's value or increase. At the end of the day, we have no idea what the market will be in say 15-20 years.
Go with your gut feeling and good luck!
Go with your gut feeling and good luck!
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Al22
路Seamaster for me or the BB 58. That explorer is so bland compared to the Submariner. Also, IMO don't buy a watch because it will holds it's value or increase. At the end of the day, we have no idea what the market will be in say 15-20 years.
Go with your gut feeling and good luck!
It麓s only about the two. Seamaster or the BB 58. 馃榾
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路Seamaster for me or the BB 58. That explorer is so bland compared to the Submariner. Also, IMO don't buy a watch because it will holds it's value or increase. At the end of the day, we have no idea what the market will be in say 15-20 years.
Go with your gut feeling and good luck!
That's the reason why I sold the Explorer - beautiful and clean design, but not enough wow factor for me.
With regards to resale value the OP was undecided on what to do between several models. If you had bought the SMPc, I can tell you that if you changed your mind, you will have dropped a fair percentage of it's original value the moment you buy it, and will steadily decline as time goes by. Same can be said with the Explorer but you won't lose as much. The BB58 you will get the same amount back at least, as long as demand is still there (I've heard that Tudor will soon distribute to the rest of Europe this quarter, which may improve supply).
So if you are still not sure, and you are concerned about losing money if you change your mind, the SMPc isn't the watch for you. If you are 100% sure, then go for whatever model - as Albe100 says, go with your gut feeling.
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Al22
路Thanks for the comments.馃榾
It麓s really interesting that so many people prefer the Tudor over the new SMPC. How I mentioned it麓s only between these two watches.
My gut feeling was more for the Tudor. I am not sure if the watch is to similar with Seamster 60th aniversary, if I an not sell it or willing to sell it?
Now I am unsure, because I can get the SMPC for the same price.
It麓s really interesting that so many people prefer the Tudor over the new SMPC. How I mentioned it麓s only between these two watches.
My gut feeling was more for the Tudor. I am not sure if the watch is to similar with Seamster 60th aniversary, if I an not sell it or willing to sell it?
Now I am unsure, because I can get the SMPC for the same price.
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kuchars22
路Are you in the UK? I see the watches you tried on had Euro prices so perhaps not. I buy watches from "est1897". They probably have the largest selection of SMP in the UK (preowned), and some SMPc's. You have 30 days to return them - they send you a prepaid tracked delivery envelope and you get your money back very quickly (24 hours in my case). Good way to try it before buying new as long as you return it in the same condition. With the BB58, you buy new and sell it for the same price or more if you don't like it. Job done!
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Al22
路Are you in the UK? I see the watches you tried on had Euro prices so perhaps not. I buy watches from "est1897". They probably have the largest selection of SMP in the UK (preowned), and some SMPc's. You have 30 days to return them - they send you a prepaid tracked delivery envelope and you get your money back very quickly (24 hours in my case). Good way to try it before buying new as long as you return it in the same condition. With the BB58, you buy new and sell it for the same price or more if you don't like it. Job done!
Thanks. I am based in Germany. I will have a look at the shop.
Still thinking about the new SMPC with 8800. the haptic was really awesome
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kuchars22
路Unfortunately they don't ship outside of UK
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Riviera Paradise
路If you want a more pure sports/causal watch I would go SMPc , but IMO the BB58 is more versatile and elegant and at a superb price point.
My personal watch selection angst is that I have been hesitating for over a year between buying a Railmaster 60th or a Railmaster non LE blue dial on bracelet. I was about the pull the trigger on the blue dial, but a deluge of instagram and internet BB58 pictures have now reset my collection decision馃檮 I think the BB58 looks gorgeous on the leather or NATO strap (photo below from lesrhabilleurs)...very classy馃グ. Can't wait to see / wrist test one of these live. I always thought the Black Bay's were too thick, but the BB58 seems to have corrected that "flaw".
https://www.lesrhabilleurs.com/baselworld-2018-tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight/
Ref the Explorer, I do own the new 2016 Explorer and love it with the new lume. I would never sell it either for the SMPc or the BB58. It is super elegant and has same great pedigree beyond the "Everest story": Ian Flemming, David Attenborough's tool watch in his nature expeditions, Roger Smith's GADA watch...the list goes on馃榾
My personal watch selection angst is that I have been hesitating for over a year between buying a Railmaster 60th or a Railmaster non LE blue dial on bracelet. I was about the pull the trigger on the blue dial, but a deluge of instagram and internet BB58 pictures have now reset my collection decision馃檮 I think the BB58 looks gorgeous on the leather or NATO strap (photo below from lesrhabilleurs)...very classy馃グ. Can't wait to see / wrist test one of these live. I always thought the Black Bay's were too thick, but the BB58 seems to have corrected that "flaw".
https://www.lesrhabilleurs.com/baselworld-2018-tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight/
Ref the Explorer, I do own the new 2016 Explorer and love it with the new lume. I would never sell it either for the SMPc or the BB58. It is super elegant and has same great pedigree beyond the "Everest story": Ian Flemming, David Attenborough's tool watch in his nature expeditions, Roger Smith's GADA watch...the list goes on馃榾
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kuchars22
路I'd wish that the new SMPc had the date at 3. Can't see a compelling reason to be where it is now, unless it's because of some design relating to any forthcoming chrono version
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