Friday Classic Cars

Alpha · Jan 17, 2014

Lotus I found was the only car that if it sat in the garage for a week and you took it out for a spin you could actually feel the flats on the tyres, a couple of miles and they smoothed out. Just an indication of the feel you picked up from the whole car.

Remember passing a golf club in central France, spotted a Renault Alpine pulling out behind, we eventually both upped the anti and enjoyed many miles together. No Gendarmes on there Moto Guzzi's 😀

Northernman · Jan 17, 2014

Alpha
Lotus I found was the only car that if it sat in the garage for a week and you took it out for a spin you could actually feel the flats on the tyres, a couple of miles and they smoothed out. Just an indication of the feel you picked up from the whole car.

Remember passing a golf club in central France, spotted a Renault Alpine pulling out behind, we eventually both upped the anti and enjoyed many miles together. No Gendarmes on there Moto Guzzi's 😀

Clarkson on Lotus:
If you drive over a caterpillar the steering will tell you how many feet it had. 😎

Tony C. · Jan 17, 2014

Recently sold this one - a wildly undervalued '89 Alfa Romeo Milano Verde. They are great driver's cars, and I don't use that word lightly.

Northernman · Jan 17, 2014

Had an Alfa 90 back years ago as a daily beater. Great drive. Still on Alfa for everyday commute. Once a petrol head.....

Alpha · Jan 17, 2014

Northernman
Had an Alfa 90 back years ago as a daily beater. Great drive. Still on Alfa for everyday commute. Once a petrol head.....

Do they still drop out of bed price wise ? A few years back was sorely tempted to pick up a nearly new for about half list.

Hijak · Jan 17, 2014

Tony C.
Recently sold this one - a wildly undervalued '89 Alfa Romeo Milano Verde. They are great driver's cars, and I don't use that word lightly.

I love Alfa for making this car, very subtle, but get behind the wheel and BAM!👍

Fritz · Jan 17, 2014

We can't all afford four wheels with a blue chip pedigree.... but there's other ways to get your vehicular jollies!

I give you the ex-Canadian Forces Triumph from 1953, got it with its original tires and 3900 miles showing when it was "only" 35 years old....

It made a nice wedding limo.

seamonster · Jan 17, 2014

Alpha
It was becoming a bit of a regular post, nothing to exciting of late but maybe today something to whet the appetite ?

A flat floor E-type and a left hander to suit you boys that drive on the wrong side of the road 😉

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/car-advert/jaguar/e-type/1961/233552/?utm_campaign=CCFS-Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=01112013-Newsletter&utm_content=Car-pick-1&cm_ven=ExactTarget&cm_cat=CCFS_NEWS_FRI_17012014&cm_pla=CCS_Newsletter&cm_ite=CAR PICK 1&[email protected]&cm_ainfo=&att1=&att2=%%__AdditionalEmailAttribute2%%&att3=%%__AdditionalEmailAttribute3%%&att4=%%__AdditionalEmailAttribute4%%&att5=%%__AdditionalEmailAttribute5%%

Respectable Member Alpha

This is a true classic Jaguar, built to last virtually forever.

Just take a look at the new Jaguars. Perhaps, they are an eye-sore and not worth a second glance. The same can be said about the new Cadillacs. They are just another car compared to the vintage examples.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/busi...ustralia-in-2018/story-fnda1bsz-1226801977888

Classic versus Plastic

Thank-you.

ulackfocus · Jan 17, 2014

Cadillacs might be an exception. The new ones are damn nice performance sedans. FFast too.

blackwatch · Jan 17, 2014

My brother has an E39 M5 Bimmer which he bought new. When it was about 5 years old, it started having mysterious electrical problems which several dealers have not been able to fix. Last winter it spent about 4 months in the shop, while factory reps were called in, etc. They finally admitted that they couldn't find the problem. (The symptom is that the trouble indicator lamp comes on with a generic "misfire" code. At these times it sometimes runs a little rough, sometimes not.)

My point being in 50 years, this car will not be on the road. Anything dependent on that much custom silicon and long-obsolete microprocessors has a limited lifespan.

I love many of the new GM high performance cars, but none of them will be on the road in 50 years either.

Meanwhile, the bug-eyed sprites...

Northernman · Jan 18, 2014

Alpha
Do they still drop out of bed price wise ? A few years back was sorely tempted to pick up a nearly new for about half list.

Never bought A new Alfa. Better pick one three year old, well kept and at less than half price.
😉

Archer · Jan 18, 2014

Alpha
Lotus I found was the only car that if it sat in the garage for a week and you took it out for a spin you could actually feel the flats on the tyres, a couple of miles and they smoothed out. Just an indication of the feel you picked up from the whole car.

My 1987 Jag VandenPlas would do that after sitting for a night....it was an indication that the car weighed about 4400 pounds...and that the Pirelli P5's on it were not really all that great...

Kinda miss that V12 though...

Archer · Jan 18, 2014

blackwatch
My brother has an E39 M5 Bimmer which he bought new. When it was about 5 years old, it started having mysterious electrical problems which several dealers have not been able to fix. Last winter it spent about 4 months in the shop, while factory reps were called in, etc. They finally admitted that they couldn't find the problem. (The symptom is that the trouble indicator lamp comes on with a generic "misfire" code. At these times it sometimes runs a little rough, sometimes not.)

My point being in 50 years, this car will not be on the road. Anything dependent on that much custom silicon and long-obsolete microprocessors has a limited lifespan.

I love many of the new GM high performance cars, but none of them will be on the road in 50 years either.

Meanwhile, the bug-eyed sprites...

My E39 540 was the one BMW we have owned (out of 8 so far) that gave me a lot of issues, and they were all electrical/electronic. Camshaft position sensor failed a couple of times, and that leaves you on the side of the road. The light control module was replaced several times, as well as the entire instrument cluster. In addition the yaw sensor failed twice for the traction control - when I brought it in the first time they had never seen that before, and asked me if I was doing slalom courses with the car...uh no not really....

Loved the car, and still think it's the best looking 5 series ever (in particular in the M version) but it did have it's issues.

When I got my first Z4 (the 3 litre version) it has electric assist steering, which was not great. It also tramilined like no other car I've ever driven. I solved those problems by getting this:

Richard Hammond described The Z4M as "Fred Flintsonte's car" in his Top Gear review (in a nice way) - it was very basic in many ways, and the best car I have ever owned. Unfortunately gone now...

Hijak · Jan 18, 2014

That Z4M is one good looking car, bet that was a fun ride!👍

Archer · Jan 18, 2014

Hijak
That Z4M is one good looking car, bet that was a fun ride!👍

Any car producing 100 bhp/litre or more is a fun ride...this one was no exception. 😀

The styling was polarizing, but I loved it. I was very torn between the sapphire black that I ended up getting, or the Interlagos blue....

The black was obviously difficult to keep clean, but there is nothing like a black car really...

Hijak · Jan 18, 2014

Yes these cars were polarizing but I thought they looked fantastic.👍 When they started putting the convertible hard tops on them...well let's just say I think that took something away from a beautiful design. The black cars are definitely harder to keep clean but when they are clean they sure look spectacular!😎 And this Z4M in no exception looking incredible in black.

blackwatch · Jan 18, 2014

Archer
Loved the car, and still think it's the best looking 5 series ever (in particular in the M version) but it did have it's issues.

I think it's the best looking BMW ever, and fun to drive in its own way, but unbeatably comfortable on the freeway. It is sort of a modern equivalent of the Chevelle SS396.

My brother parked his in the BMW section of his garage and bought something else for a daily driver.

Meanwhile I stick with very boring but ultra reliable Japanese boxen mostly of my wife's choosing.

Archer · Jan 18, 2014

Hijak
Yes these cars were polarizing but I thought they looked fantastic.👍 When they started putting the convertible hard tops on them...well let's just say I think that took something away from a beautiful design. The black cars are definitely harder to keep clean but when they are clean they sure look spectacular!😎 And this Z4M in no exception looking incredible in black.

In my view the E89 Z4 took the design from being a real sports car, to being more of a grand touring car - it lost it's "edge" so I agree with you completely that the E85 and E86 were much better looking. I know Chris Bangle was not everyone's cuppa (known for the "Bangle Butt" on the E65 7 series), but the original Z4's were some of my favourite designs.

One of my big regrets (aside from selling the Z4M) was that I never made it to "Roadster Homecoming" down in South Carolina....these events were quite something based on the photos I've seen.

Funny when I look back on my cars over the years, starting with the Jag saloon with the 5.3 litre V12, then going through a couple of 5 series BMW's, then the Z4's, and now I drive a 128, my cars are getting smaller as I get older - the opposite of what happens with many I guess...no big land yachts in my future I suspect...😁

Archer · Jan 18, 2014

blackwatch
Meanwhile I stick with very boring but ultra reliable Japanese boxen mostly of my wife's choosing.

My condolences mate...😉

At least it's not a mini-van though (well I hope not!).

I have often though of picking up a E39 M5 cheap, but then the maintenance costs come to mind - these days I tend not to own one of these cars without some sort of warranty...

Pahawi · Jan 18, 2014

Loved the car, and still think it's the best looking 5 series ever (in particular in the M version) but it did have it's issues.

Exactly. Currently have this model and prefer this design over the newer ones. Mostly the wife use it, but the few times I get the chance to drive it, I love how it handles + the sound. Have had it some years now and so far no issues at all. When weather allow it, I do prefer this, though: www.1967mustang.dk
😀

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