Hello valuable members of OF In this first post I would want to thank you all for this great forum. First time poster but long time lurker on the board, I learnt here so many things in mechanical watches that I love since my childhood. Mechanical ones fascinate me by the way these tiny wheels work and tell precise time. 60 to 70% of “not so many” watches I ever own are mechanical. Now I would like to ask with you if the dial pictured is legit. I came across of this in local forum and to me this is surely a redial and done with fantasy. Would you confirm my suspicions please. Thank you. Sorry English is not my first foreign language.
Hi there! Welcome to ΩF. Yes, confirmed - a refinished dial. "Fantasy redial" is kinda catchy. It looks like a half decent job though, especially compared to some of the nightmare redials we've seen.
Thank you for your thought. Thank you for comment. I actually was attracted by the case condition but the dial makes me sad. Thank you for your input. What about the other dial pictured below. I think it’s redial too since enamel, markers, ... all are too neat to be true for a watch from 70s era (almost 50yo) although font seems period correct. Cyclope on crystal with omaga logo is another red flag to mee.
Oh, it's not a redial - it's a very nice original. It's also from the mid-60's so add a decade on to your age estimate.
(Y) sixties piece I agree. In fact serial number starts with 25xxxxxx. But to me this dial is incredibly well preserved. To good to be true! Especially the regulator is a bit rusty. See picture. Sadly we don't often use gloves for caliber handling.
That would put it around 1967, right in the correct range for a Seamaster DeVille. If it has been refinished, it's an EXCELLENT job. Seeing how shiny the plating is on the rotor and the rest of the movement, it's not to hard to believe the dial is original. I had a Seamaster DeVille in nearly mint condition, and we do see them often enough in perfectly preserved fashion that it isn't a stretch to think the watch you've pictured is also mint original. That little bit of surface rust is very strange, given the condition of the rest of the movement. I'll repeat Archer's question: who are you? Are you a watch repair facility?
I meant by "we" local watchmakers and local watch enthousiasts. I never ever saw a single local watchmaker (neither collectors) here using glove to handle calibers or dial. Probably because these accessories are rare. Do fabric gloves are prohbited in favor of latex gloves? My bad. Deeply sorry for my poor English. I am not involved in watchmaking or watch commerce, just a mechanical watch lover. Althought in my younger years (I am 57yo living in Saigon-Vietnam) I used to visite a friend shop. He was watchmaker and I loved to stay beside of him to watch with fascination how he worked on these tiny pieces. Cheers
Modern practices are to use finger tip gloves. https://m.uline.com/h5/r/www.uline....VxVt-Ch3MIATQEAQYAiABEgJk3fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds $12 for 720. It protects movements and dials from oils on your hand. Very important on older pieces.
.... and tweener pieces too! Besides, using white gloves make the watch your holding look so much classier.
Whoops, TY It seems I didn’t actually finish typing my response before posting and left that part out. Doh.
Hello everyone I own a Geneve cal 563 pictured belown with I think untouched dial. I love that dial although it’s not perfect. I am going to ask my favorite watchmaker to service the caliber. On that dial there are oily spots while enamel is very prone to peel off. What should I instruct the watchmaker to gently clean these oily spots without damaging enamel and scripts. I can provide better dial pictures if it helps. Thank you in advance Edit: pictures added
I did a reverse image search of these watches and found them on this site https://phodongho.phomuaban.vn/index.php?mod=detail&cat=811&storeid=121942&id=890480 Personally, not the site I'd be buying from! But I did a crude Google translate. Some of the photos do look beautiful though!
