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First new photos in 10 plus years A386

  1. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 25, 2017

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    hi guys

    While I was visiting some long stored watches last week ... I took a few new pics of my A386 , I don't know all the different slight differences between sub versions but from what I quickly gather is like a third generation ? NATO caseback 862Dxxx SN

    Here are a few ... any comments ?

    Merry xmass

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  2. Pahawi Dec 25, 2017

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    Sure - dibs ;-)
     
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  3. jumpingsecond Dec 25, 2017

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    Very nice. Those lugs like razor blades :thumbsup:::love::
     
  4. Hijak Dec 25, 2017

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    Only comment...Very nice!::love::
     
  5. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 25, 2017

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    Sorry no dibs on this one ..... or I would have a list a mile long .....

    Best regards


    Bill
     
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  6. jhross98 Dec 25, 2017

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    wonderful example. how an a386 case is supposed to look but few do

    i am told that the lume, when exposed to air, turns the dark green/brown you see on so many examples. very rare to have it fresh like yours is. most that look like this are re-lumed

    i believe this issue was fixed on later models like the a3817 and a3818
     
  7. Pahawi Dec 25, 2017

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    Thought so, but had to try :)
     
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  8. ELV web Dec 25, 2017

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    Great example, crown is replaced though (a good version of replacement still but the original, the star is bigger and almost cover the whole crown surface.)
     
  9. MPWATCH Watch Lover Dec 25, 2017

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    The lug finish is fantastic. Love the shine off the textured registers - I prefer the original ladder bracelet, but I love the strap choice!

    Happy Holiday!
    - MP
     
  10. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 25, 2017

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    Hi

    Sorry to tell you that is the original crown. I bought this from son of original owner in like 1995 crown was actually broken ( stem was broken). My watch make soaked crown to dissolve stem...and then replaced stem and put it back on watch.


    Bill
     
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  11. ELV web Dec 25, 2017

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    Perhaps there are 2 versions of the crown. Just to show the other version.
     
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  12. Frederic_gva Dec 28, 2017

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    Beauiful MK3 in top condition !!!

    crown is not correct, but still acceptable to me.... Better than the replacement one from the 70s...
     
  13. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 28, 2017

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    Hi @Frederic_gva

    Thanks for the complement .
    Like I mentioned before.... THis wawtch was bought from the son of a Sales man from Movado USA his dad won two watches as a top performer either 1970 or 1971... He sold the gold watch off an kept this one.... wore it till stem broke off then put it away in the box it came in with booklets.. (i think box was movado signed. ) That is the crown that came with the watch from the factory.

    I purchased this back in the early 1990s Pretty tight trail back to the factory.

    @Frederic_gva , did you work at Zenith in the 1970s ?

    regards

    Bill Sohne
     
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  14. Frederic_gva Dec 29, 2017

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    Hi @Bill Sohne

    Thanks for your message. Maybe this crown with smaller circle is then correct... Possibly it was like a US version or something... ?

    I guess you made a good deal back in the early 90s... :)

    I was not born in 1971... :) But the head of heritage department at Zenith is a good friend of mine, which gives me access to useful information.

    regards to all

    Frederic
     
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  15. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 29, 2017

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    Hi @Frederic_gva

    As mentioned before he got it as an award from the movado/zenith company... its a 31j movement the crown is original to the watch as it was given to him from the factory. once stem broke his put it back in the box and that was until i got it.

    That is the best i can do in tracing it back...


    Bill
     
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  16. TexOmega Dec 29, 2017

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    I love this Forum, how else does one piece together information to make a beautiful tapestry but by the collective knowledge of watch enthusiasts willing to impart their knowledge!! Thank you!

    Obligatory pictures, MkIII

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  17. andomegas Jan 2, 2018

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    I hadn't read on OF that this style crown was original to an A386 before, everything I had read here suggests it to be a service crown. Interesting.
    Anyone else on OF have an A386 they believe to be all-original with this crown (US version as @Frederic_gva asks, or otherwise)?
    Thanks all-
     
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  18. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 3, 2018

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    Hi guys


    Once again the history of this watch. . It was given by Zenith -Movado in early 70s as a sales award to an employee . I got this as is from his son w broken stem and " has not been used since stem broke off and my dad put it back in the box " . When I got it the original buckle was in the box and it was on a twist o flex bracelet .....

    Good hunting

    Bill
     
  19. chronoboy64 Jan 3, 2018

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    Dear Bill,
    your watch is an incredibly nice A386. The look of the crown is a bit different from the others that had a due diligence by members like me for my two A386 MK1 and MK3. But I am convinced, that there might have been some bottlenecs in the Production (esp. for the MK3) that leads Zenith to use other genuine crowns (from f.e. A3736 or A277 owns) for the ongoing Production process which are looking like yours.
    But I have no evidence for that.
    Hope that can Build a bridge....
    Best Hajo
     
  20. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 3, 2018

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    Hi @chronoboy64

    Been collecting for about 30 years now.... Been told by Omega Bienne on more then one occasion I was incorrect on an item or something and then they came around and agreed with my assessment, mind you in come cases it took them 8 years.... but they diid come back and agreed. i have come across stuff that other thought was put together etc....

    On the A386 , I am confident on this watches history and fine with keeping it as is. Time will tell....


    Good Hunting

    Bill