First Dial Cleaning Attempt

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Wow! Inspiring and now I’m debating doing the same for one my Seamasters, also a similar texture dial.

Out of curiosity, did you or anyone here know if the Omega Service Center cleans dials?
 
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Out of curiosity, did you or anyone here know if the Omega Service Center cleans dials?
I do not believe Omega cleans dials, mainly due to the risk of damage as mentioned in this thread.

If a dial is degraded, Omega may insist on a redial or replacement dial (at additional cost, of course) before they will work on the watch.
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There are a few dial maestro's who may attempt this. One guy is in Italy, but I forget his name. And probably very expensive, as the video I watched showed him working on a vintage Rolex sports model that was probably a six figure watch.

I would NOT send this to Omega. And really, I was very very lucky not to destroy the dial. So cannot recommend anyone taking a similar chance unless they truly accept that they may ruin the dial..
 
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It really cannot be stressed enough, this is only to be done if you have absolutely nothing to lose.

I have a friend (not a watchmaker) who is an artist at relumes and dial cleaning- he has an incredibly gentle touch and has practiced extensively on junker dials (many I have provided him). He is still very measured in what he will and won’t do.
He has had great luck minimizing spotting on gloss dials by using a polishing compound (like a car cleaner wax) and a soft cotton swab. It takes him an hour or so of careful work- but the results have been remarkable. That said- only on gloss dials, and only with the right materials/touch, and never when the lacquer has been compromised.
 
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In these threads you only see the successful attempts. For every 1 of those there are likely 50 that go the other way...
 
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In these threads you only see the successful attempts. For every 1 of those there are likely 50 that go the other way...

Absolutely.
 
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There are a few dial maestro's who may attempt this. One guy is in Italy, but I forget his name. And probably very expensive, as the video I watched showed him working on a vintage Rolex sports model that was probably a six figure watch.
I would NOT send this to Omega. And really, I was very very lucky not to destroy the dial. So cannot recommend anyone taking a similar chance unless they truly accept that they may ruin the dial..

do you mean Roberto Taraballa?

https://instagram.com/roberto.tarabella_watchmaker

He really is a magician!
 
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I'm resurrecting this old thread with a new cleaning result. I purchased this old Geneve on ebay, then found out it was posted about on this forum.

I removed the bezel and hands and went to work with a few different things. First distilled water and a Q-tip, then diluted lemon juice and a mascara brush. Then I got nervy and tried a bit of naptha on a mascara brush. Was very careful to try to avoid the lettering. But certainly did touch the lettering. And found it to be pretty tough on this particular dial. So very lucky. I think the waffle has something to do with the lettering having better adherence. Anyway--central stain mostly removed with naptha and mascara brush and I'm fairly pleased with the result.

May bring this to my watchmaker for a service and wear it a bit..


Thanks for updating the thread - nice result! It's slowly getting cleaner and cleaner 😀
 
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Really cool seeing the progression from original to initially cleaned and then after the final cleaning. Awesome transformation and great result!
 
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do you mean Roberto Taraballa?

https://instagram.com/roberto.tarabella_watchmaker

He really is a magician!

I have a hard time believing his magic, I think he's a 8.5'er and a good photographer, my impression is that he can bring a 5/10 dial to a 8.5 - but would downgrade a 9 dial to a 8.5 too

He seems very experienced in painting with lumes and I assume has good material experience for touch ups, as in, he can match dial material/color, yet from his before/after's it's clear that there's some photography magic too

With this said I hope his magic is real and wish there were more like him
 
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I have a hard time believing his magic, I think he's a 8.5'er and a good photographer, my impression is that he can bring a 5/10 dial to a 8.5 - but would downgrade a 9 dial to a 8.5 too

He seems very experienced in painting with lumes and I assume has good material experience for touch ups, as in, he can match dial material/color, yet from his before/after's it's clear that there's some photography magic too

With this said I hope his magic is real and wish there were more like him
I have no experience with the fellow in question- but I can tell you I have seen some pretty nice clean-ups from my buddy. There is a limit, like a 5-8.5, it will never be a 10.
 
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I have a rose gold matte black dial C-Case that was rough handled, that's why I'm in the pit of despair that I'm in, someone did a lot of mistakes on it, removed 3 minute indices trying to rub something out and touched the dial with an oily substance, that's why I pay too much attention to restoration attempts and methods

I believe Tarabello is an expert painter with a precise hand and has good experience with materials and color matching, that's what I deducted from what little he shows, he does good touch ups but on live streams he directly touches dials too, like the front parts of matte black dials with his naked fingers, which really puzzled me

He gets lume material on black dials and then can wipe them off, this is pretty interesting

I've been trying to endure this need to get my dial improved, if your friend has experience with black dials and small touch ups like restoring minute markers, I'd appreciate an introduction
 
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I have a rose gold matte black dial C-Case that was rough handled, that's why I'm in the pit of despair that I'm in, someone did a lot of mistakes on it, removed 3 minute indices trying to rub something out and touched the dial with an oily substance, that's why I pay too much attention to restoration attempts and methods

I believe Tarabello is an expert painter with a precise hand and has good experience with materials and color matching, that's what I deducted from what little he shows, he does good touch ups but on live streams he directly touches dials too, like the front parts of matte black dials with his naked fingers, which really puzzled me

He gets lume material on black dials and then can wipe them off, this is pretty interesting

I've been trying to endure this need to get my dial improved, if your friend has experience with black dials and small touch ups like restoring minute markers, I'd appreciate an introduction
He is a hobbiest and refused to work on watches that belong to people other than me- and only because he knows he won’t be held liable for it. I give him full agency to do what he needs to and understand the risks.
I use him as an example of what someone with some experience can do, but with lots of practice and a limited (no) liability.
People who are willing to work on $$$$ watches for crazy watch collectors get paid what they do because they assume the liability if anything goes wrong.

And just a side note on the skill set of someone like my friend- he is a life long builder or scale models, works on electronics with PCB’s and point to point wiring, and is very comfortable working in miniature. I don’t have a steady enough hand for that kind of work which is why I don’t even bother.
 
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Fabulous result! I had one good attempt with lemon juice and one disaster (watched the lettering float right off the dial 😲 )

Naptha is an amazing chemical for these kinds of applications - I know many art conservators that use it - but they know exactly how it will react on what surfaces. They also swear by enzymatic solution #1
By enzymatic solution #1, do you mean spit? It's top of the list for conservators.
 
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By enzymatic solution #1, do you mean spit? It's top of the list for conservators.
Yup! But don’t tell the client that- hence ES1