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Hi I would like to know if there are some experts here that can give me answers regarding this watch. Which is an omega constellation calendar.

Movement is not the original one. (I know that)
But I would like to know if some experts are spotting any thing strange?

Thanks for your help guys !

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watchizz
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Can you explain me what did you spot (interested to know that)
 
stormysky10
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Have you ever seen a reference 14902 / 168.005 look like this? Nope.
 
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About a dozen things are wrong there, but since you haven’t told us the case number who knows. The first flag is that it has a ETA 2836 movement. An original omega 60s or 70s Connie dial would not work with that movement. Have you got a pic of the inner caseback? You have everything else so if not I would ask why?

It’s an attractive confection and there were some weird dog leg Connie’s sold in Japan in the 1970s but I fear this wasn’t one.

You have to ask yourself:

Can you find another steel cased Connie calendar with the facet ridges like those on the deluxe models seen there?

Can you find a Connie dogleg pre 1980 that uses an ETA movement or is compatible with one?

Can you find another dogleg with such a wide stamped observatory medallion?

It’s a fake from somewhere like Vietnam, but it’s a jolly attractive one. At one point I owned a fake SM300 with the same movement. I wonder if it came from the same Far Eastern source as this.
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watchizz
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stormysky10 stormysky10
Have you ever seen a reference 14902 / 168.005 look like this? Nope.
Can you explain me more in details please?
That would really help me to spot issues regarding counterfeit.. as you look experts and me newbie 😅 I'll make a refund request but I need your help for giving real reasons

Thanks a lot for your help 🥹
 
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watchizz watchizz
Can you explain me more in details please?
That would really help me to spot issues regarding counterfeit.. as you look experts and me newbie 😅 I'll make a refund request but I need your help for giving real reasons

Thanks a lot for your help 🥹
Show us what is on the inner caseback.
 
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watchizz watchizz
Can you explain me more in details please?
That would really help me to spot issues regarding counterfeit.. as you look experts and me newbie 😅 I'll make a refund request but I need your help for giving real reasons

Thanks a lot for your help 🥹
You have your answer about the watch. Providing a complete education about how to identify fake watches is a lot to ask. Over time, as you look at watches and learn about them, it will be easy to identify problems.
 
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watchizz watchizz
Can you explain me more in details please?
That would really help me to spot issues regarding counterfeit.. as you look experts and me newbie 😅 I'll make a refund request but I need your help for giving real reasons

Thanks a lot for your help 🥹
I am hoping you can get a refund.

You should start by identifying the reference (that's what the inner caseback would tell you). From there, you would evaluate whether the example you're evaluating matches the known characteristics of that reference.

Unfortunately, what I'm seeing here is all wrong. I have not known any dogleg Constellations to present in the manner you have shown. The non-Omega movement, the dial layout, the caseback medallion, etc. All are incorrect. When you have that many things wrong, it is likely that nothing on this watch is legitimate.
 
watchizz
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Thanks a lot for your help !
Of course I don't have backcase at the moment, I'll try to open it.
I was asking so I can give as much as details to prove that this one is a fake
167.005 was specified is there any ressource that can confirm without any doubt that this model (presented like this) actually don't exist?
 
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A reference 167.005 should have no date.

1: Gent's watch
6: Self-winding centre second
7: Water-resistant chronometre

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watchizz watchizz
Thanks a lot for your help !
Of course I don't have backcase at the moment, I'll try to open it.
I was asking so I can give as much as details to prove that this one is a fake
167.005 was specified is there any ressource that can confirm without any doubt that this model (presented like this) actually don't exist?
Well if it was advertised as a 167.005 you should have been concerned off the bat since the 167 prefix denotes a non date equipped watch. You can perhaps use that as a means to enforce a return.

Research like this is generally best done before purchase. Just saying!

Cross posted with above!!
 
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watchizz watchizz
Thanks a lot for your help !
Of course I don't have backcase at the moment, I'll try to open it.
I was asking so I can give as much as details to prove that this one is a fake
167.005 was specified is there any ressource that can confirm without any doubt that this model (presented like this) actually don't exist?

Well it’s not an Omega movement and the case is fake. That should be enough for a refund.
 
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watchizz watchizz
Can you explain me more in details please?
That would really help me to spot issues regarding counterfeit.. as you look experts and me newbie 😅 I'll make a refund request but I need your help for giving real reasons

Thanks a lot for your help 🥹
If you search there are a few threads about spotting redials/fakes. It does take a while but the more you look the more you know. Also buying from a reputable source knocks off a lot of worry.
 
Peemacgee
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Fake dial
Fake case
Wrong movt.

‘nuff said.
 
SOG53
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Dont try to open it if you damage caseback then seller can deny refund.
Just claim as fake and return
And ask first next time
 
SOG53
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start here:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/ Cover Image
Thread 'Learn How To Fish' ·
I have had a few newer members asking me for advice on how to spot a good vintage watch and what they should be on guard for. I've decided to post a little primer on how to assess vintage watches...
ConElPueblo ·

follow this thread daily- vetted listings by OF mods:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/recommended-vintage-omega-watches-only-on-ebay-not-for-inquiries.1790/ MSNWatch
Thread 'Recommended Vintage OMEGA WATCHES (only) On EBAY (NOT for Inquiries)' ·
We have lots of threads from members asking opinions on watches listed on ebay. How about we turn things around - let's talk about watches on ebay that are worth purchasing. My disclaimer is...
MSNWatch ·

dont buy anything on you own you will have more regrets but you will learn a lot if you do the above for 6 months
 
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