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·I agree completely with Evan in respect of presumption of guilt. As he suggests, with 14900 stainless steel cases think fake and then seek to prove innocent afterwards.
Firstly, we are talking about photographs here that are shadowed and dark, a common ploy previously of the bigger sellers of these fake. Before I would venture to shout "Innocent" I would want to see some well-lit and high resolution pictures.
Secondly, there have been a number of 'improvements', can we say, to fake 14900 and 14902s over time. However the red flags I would want to investigate further are:
1. It's claimed to be NOS, however the case appears overly polished. So the first claim made in the listing is, in my opinion, false.
2. If it was NOS, the chamfers on the lugs would be so sharp you could almost cut yourself on them.
3. The case middle, while plumping out, also appears like previous attempt to replicate this feature where any defects are polished out. The chamfer in a genuine case is exactly straight whereas the case in question seems not to be. The edges on a genuine example are sharp and not rounded.
4. The lugs appear slightly misshapen and I would want clear pics to make a comparison
5. The perlaging appears primitive and not fine
6. Remember this was 1962, and the two means of identifying cases were stamping and engraving.
So, there are enough red flags with the eBay listing to engage in a process of very pernickety elimination. There were stock 14900 replacement cases manufactured, and I can attest to that having purchased one some years ago before the supply ran out, but they were of the same quality with one difference - the inner case back was frosted (grain finished) and not perlaged
Cheers
Desmond
Firstly, we are talking about photographs here that are shadowed and dark, a common ploy previously of the bigger sellers of these fake. Before I would venture to shout "Innocent" I would want to see some well-lit and high resolution pictures.
Secondly, there have been a number of 'improvements', can we say, to fake 14900 and 14902s over time. However the red flags I would want to investigate further are:
1. It's claimed to be NOS, however the case appears overly polished. So the first claim made in the listing is, in my opinion, false.
2. If it was NOS, the chamfers on the lugs would be so sharp you could almost cut yourself on them.
3. The case middle, while plumping out, also appears like previous attempt to replicate this feature where any defects are polished out. The chamfer in a genuine case is exactly straight whereas the case in question seems not to be. The edges on a genuine example are sharp and not rounded.
4. The lugs appear slightly misshapen and I would want clear pics to make a comparison
5. The perlaging appears primitive and not fine
6. Remember this was 1962, and the two means of identifying cases were stamping and engraving.
So, there are enough red flags with the eBay listing to engage in a process of very pernickety elimination. There were stock 14900 replacement cases manufactured, and I can attest to that having purchased one some years ago before the supply ran out, but they were of the same quality with one difference - the inner case back was frosted (grain finished) and not perlaged
Cheers
Desmond
Hi,
I have created a comparison between both case back covers. The left case back is supposedly the genuine case, whereas the right one is the one under debate. Outside of the different overlapping of circles, you may notice a slightly different "s" used for the "62 sc". This is noticeable in other cases I got to compare (supposed fakes vs. genuine).
I still wonder if there could be a chance that some of what we consider as "fakes" are actually cases that were made later on down the line by Omega as replacement parts. Even though there are some cases (and more obviously - dials) that just seem cheap, some cases that are considered "fake" seem to be well built. I am not an Omega historian or specialist, so I don't acquire the knowledge to rule on this case. But I can say that I have encountered before some parts that seemed a little different but are original replacement parts. That could also explain the surge of 14900 62 sc cases, when some actually seem to be a little used.
Perhaps someone could shed more light on this issue.
