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  1. gaugetheday Mar 3, 2015

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    Hello, everyone,

    I'm looking to get some more info on this one before I pursue. Any thoughts on condition, price, and authenticity?

    Thanks

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  2. shaun hk Fairy nuffer Mar 3, 2015

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    The case looks kind of dirty, it may clean up or it may be rust. I would pass unless it was very, very cheap and you liked the idea of the clean up
     
  3. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Mar 3, 2015

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    It appears authentic and an original dial. As stated above the watch is dirty, which might suggest it was not well cared for but who knows.
    The key question is whether the watch is in working condition. If not or unknown - move on.
     
  4. rogart ray it again, Ram. Mar 4, 2015

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    Rust:confused: .A stainless steel case can it rust ? The watch looks ok to me . $150-$200 maybe
     
  5. tyrantlizardrex Mar 4, 2015

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    Will probably clean up, but I'd want to see the insides... If there's rust on the outside, what's the inside like?

    Does it run?

    Does the date adjust? These have plastic date wheels which suffer from sheared off gears - a steel modern replacement is about £80.

    TL:DR more information required ;-)
     
  6. gaugetheday Mar 4, 2015

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    My understanding is that even stainless can eventually rust if it's thin protective seal is broken. I've not seen it often, but it happens.
     
  7. mossy73 Mar 4, 2015

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    It’s the ingress of impurities coupled with moisture that causes the decay.
     
  8. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Mar 4, 2015

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    Stainless cases corrode - I see it often in form of pitting:

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    Rolex in this instance, but I see it on Omegas all the time as well.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  9. rogart ray it again, Ram. Mar 4, 2015

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    Have seen that too . But corrosion and rust are two different things . Both very difficult to repair .
     
  10. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Mar 4, 2015

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    I tend not to get caught up in the semantics, because whether you call it rust or corrosion, it has the same effect when we are talking about watches. However the pitting you see on cases often has rust associated with it - I was cleaning up an old seal in a 2998-63 the other day and there was rust in the O-ring groove, and when removed it was pitted. Rust is an iron oxide, and there is plenty of iron in stainless steel.

    Here is the chemical composition of 316L:

    Fe, <0.03% C, 16-18.5% Cr, 10-14% Ni, 2-3% Mo, <2% Mn, <1% Si, <0.045% P, <0.03% S

    All the alloying elements listed amount to between about 32% and 37% roughly, and everything else is Fe.

    Stainless steels do rust.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  11. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Mar 4, 2015

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    Pitting and corrosion is not that tough to repair. You just need to remove some of the effects area so that you can get down to laser welding it on watch cases. I have some some super repairs done to cases.
     
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  12. rogart ray it again, Ram. Mar 4, 2015

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    You now what i mean ? Rust is for cars and corrosion is on watches :) . So says my english teacher anyway :)
     
  13. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Mar 4, 2015

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    You were the one that brought up the difference mate, not me.
     
  14. tyrantlizardrex Mar 4, 2015

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    There was the Science bit. :)
     
  15. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Mar 4, 2015

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    Sorry - being an engineer never goes out of your system, no matter what you presently do for a living. :D

    Cheers, Al
     
  16. tyrantlizardrex Mar 4, 2015

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    Possibly the best reply to a thread ever Archer - argument shut down immediately with the power of science. Boom. :)
     
  17. rogart ray it again, Ram. Mar 4, 2015

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    You people in here doesn' t have to be rude . Haven't done anything to you @tyrantlizardrex or anybody else . Btw i now i am right so why argue any more ?
     
  18. tyrantlizardrex Mar 4, 2015

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    Sorry @rogart - no offence intended... just a fan of science.
     
  19. rogart ray it again, Ram. Mar 4, 2015

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    Science is good .But there is a lot to more to science than a couple of numbers . I shall read more about stainless steel to find out why it corrodes .