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Evaluating vintage Seamaster 321 (105.004-64)

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Hello OF!

Does anyone have any recommendations for evaluating a vintage Seamaster with the 321 movement?

I'm looking at adding one to my collection, but unlike the vintage Speedys, there's not a lot of documentation on what to look for.

Here's an example of one I'm considering for £4000:

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Hello OF!

Does anyone have any recommendations for evaluating a vintage Seamaster with the 321 movement?

I'm looking at adding one to my collection, but unlike the vintage Speedys, there's not a lot of documentation on what to look for.

Here's an example of one I'm considering: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186026229360?hash=item2b5006fe70:g:FEEAAOSwUTdk0O11&amdata=enc:AQAIAAAA4H76pUk5r6h0NzhZfr1OUamtKunBV/qSYWKHdCuGjMnmw2uuLLZl1Lr8JNB70lm/CU/PwiVTqZxjZPyJc2gRRF3lvHbUzHFGReRfnhIgTOxFa8PnfNtt3pIfjiMR0+WbsAb7IJrOfLKZ1dYZJIJow1wy0eUs69i1tVbfcKFaNK9ZH9zFUxHoWD0TsSJ4aRG0vE4AnJLe+PXLpp98wfOoj2NdkRVKaMFH7yLBOOgoeXPtZpi3QE/GARb7WqjrMlDGcd9IdtQPedkdP6biTnsXvEiam+gQiZITrP8ZiQ3YJkZ3|tkp:Bk9SR4DPgI7aYg
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the apparent dial condition on this one would give me anxiety.

The 30-minute sub-dial has been through some life and has distinct marks around the 10, there's a chip near the 400 mark on the tachy and I don't even know what devastation is going on between 180 and 110. The indices all look 'weathered' to a degree too, some more than others.

edit: now that I look a bit closer, it also appears the lume is missing? I believe these would have had little pips at the outer edge of the indices
 
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Hi Donkey,

in general I love those 321 Seamasters.

The one you are showing isn`t a nice 105.004 example in my opinion. Because of the dial (especially the tachymetre scale and the indices) and the strongly polished lugs I will allow myself to judge without further pics of the movement, caseback and so on.

I would not consider buying this watch for the price you mentioned. In my opinion it is way too high and I don`t think that you would be able to sell it for the same price again.

Best
Duffy
 
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These are great watches with a terrific pedigree. Others have pointed out the significant issues with this particular example.

For that asking price, and with some patience, you will find a better one.
 
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The dial just looks too skanky for my personal taste
 
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It’s hard to find these with good dials, as they were damaged easily by moisture and (I suspect) UV light.

I had to look a long time to find nice ones, but they are out there.

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Both were eBay finds in the last few years and neither was over $4500.
 
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Thank you for your help everyone, I'll give this one a miss and keep searching
 
calalum
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When you find a nice one you will know it. Another to share (sorry for the poor pic). GLWTC.

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