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  1. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Nov 14, 2015

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  2. flyingout Nov 14, 2015

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    Ouch!
     
  3. alam Nov 14, 2015

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    let the S Bidder win, it will be listed again...
     
  4. lillatroll Nov 14, 2015

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    The link does not come up. Hopefully it has been removed.
     
  5. base615 Nov 14, 2015

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    Still works for me. Belongs in the worst redial thread anyway, if anyone engages with him and legit bids I'd be incredibly surprised.
     
  6. Georgieboy58 Nov 14, 2015

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    It's removed!
     
  7. base615 Nov 14, 2015

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    Continues to open fine for me
     
  8. jzzmusician Nov 14, 2015

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    Works for me as well.

    Being a novice, how do you tell there is a shill?
     
  9. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Nov 14, 2015

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    The top bid dropped from over $5,000 to just over $2,000.

    Still, the shill bidder is the top bidder. I suppose he's trying to make it seems less obnoxious.
     
  10. wsfarrell Nov 14, 2015

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    I still believe shill bidding is over-diagnosed here. The top bidder, d***m, has bid on watches from 29 different sellers in the last 30 days. The vast majority are single bids. They look like multiple bids in the bidding history because (for example) he'll bid $3,000 on a watch, someone else will bid $1,200 which will auto-increment his bid to $1,300, someone else will bid $1,500 which will auto-increment his bid to $1,600, etc. etc.

    Shilling is much more likely if we see in the history that a particular bidder has bid on many different items from the same seller in the last 30 days.
     
  11. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Nov 14, 2015

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    I don't think the seller is bright enough to shill bid.

    From his description:

    "Dial: Original dial with applied gold hour hands, black Roman numeral hour markers. Natural patina. "

    s-l1600-1.jpg
     
  12. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Nov 14, 2015

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    What you guys might not realize is that the watch was yesterday at over $5,000. After I posted this thread, the watch dropped to the amount you see now.

    Can you explain that reasonably, without inserting shill bidding? It's the most logical explanation.
     
  13. alam Nov 14, 2015

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    the shill bidding activity may be questionable, but the shitty state of that dial is not
     
  14. al128 unsolicited co-moderation giverer Nov 16, 2015

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    does it come with or without the sharpie? ... I mean you might have to update the dial 20 years down the road ...