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  1. M'Bob Dec 19, 2015

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    Okay, I get that the consensus is that this never happened. But something like the one pictured: do we guess that the hands were retrofitted just because one of the earlier owners liked them better? I had them checked, they're not radium. No serial number yet. So someone must have had the Radium removed, and re-lumed the hands. No big deal, but the thing is this watch has been around untouched way before the re-luming craze started. But I guess still unlikely from the factory this way, si? EdAlpha.JPG
     
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  2. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Dec 19, 2015

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    Pretty much guaranteed it didn't leave the factory that way. Baton hands started on the 105.002.

    Could be that an earlier owner preferred them. More likely a later seller was trying to pull one over.

    The rest looks decent enough though and baton hands shouldn't be too hard to find. Could clean up nice.
     
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  3. KRLYUZH Dec 19, 2015

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    Its not correct regardless. Minute hand too short, I believe.
     
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  4. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Dec 19, 2015

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    Not all of the alpha hands were radium. I believe the later ones (2998-5 ish on) were lumed with tritium but we're not labeled with TT until required by Swiss law.
     
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  5. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Dec 19, 2015

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    Yes, but all the correct ones did reach the minute track!
     
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  6. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Dec 19, 2015

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    About a year ago, as a newbie around here, I also acquired a early Ed White, a 105.003-63, which came with alpha hands. I posted a thread regarding the watch, trying to convince the multitude that these hands were original. I even found a Omega brochure which pictured a 105.003 with alpha hands. Didn't matter. No one would listen. Almost no one as one of our most illustrious members has an early Ed White with alpha hands and believes they are correct. I won't mention his name but he may chime in on his own.

    In the end I gave up and switched the Ed White to baton hands.

    Of course I also had acquired a nice 2998-4 which needed correct hands so that made the switch rather easy to do. :)
     
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  7. M'Bob Dec 19, 2015

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    Which means what, exactly? Not Omega Speedmaster hands? Correct hands, but not reaching the minute track because the hands don't match the dial? Different alpha hands would reach the minute track, but would still not be correct? Perhaps the tip is bent down too acutely, giving the illusion of not meeting the minute track?
     
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  8. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Dec 19, 2015

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  9. southtexas Jan 3, 2024

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    Bumping an old thread to ask if anyone has an archived webpage (or similar) showing these hands lengths? The speedmaster101 link to the 2998 alpha hands measurements blog is dead (404 error). I have the MWO book but it only provides a few hands' measurements.

    On a related note, the MWO book calls for hand measurements of, say,10mm for example. Is it correct, when measuring hands, to place the hand so that the post(?) is centered over the 0 line on the ruler as seen in Row A attached? Or is Row B the correct way? I've seen both here on OF. Thanks in advance.

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  10. mac_omega Jan 3, 2024

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    A in the image is the correct way to meassure hands
     
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  11. mountainunder Jan 3, 2024

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    I'm not sure how helpful this will be, but...
    There are some in the screenshots in this thread.
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/wha...nds-make-a-105-002-62-story-in-photos.103789/

    You might find this other thread helpful!
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/eba...e-or-are-these-shorter-seamaster-hands.26540/
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/2998-hands-original.35829/
     
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  12. southtexas Jan 3, 2024

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    Thank you! I had seen some of those threads, others were new to me so thanks for taking the time to post them.

    Here’s what I have, which I think is an alpha hand for 2998. It’s convex, radium (I turned off the Geiger counter at 170CPM, background was 30 or so).

    Thoughts?

    IMG_2610.jpeg IMG_2527.jpeg

    It’s hard to capture the convex feature but I think you can see it in this photo:

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  13. mountainunder Jan 4, 2024

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  14. southtexas Jan 4, 2024

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    Thanks again for taking the time to post that info. I believe the lume cutout on mine looks like this one below, except mine is radium and my hand looks to be convex. It’s not clear to me if the author states his example is tritium or radium.

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    More photos of mine:

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