I was looking at this 145.005-67 Seamaster chrono on Ebay, and discussing with @RJwatches. I thought the dial looked far too good to be true. Hands are definitely suspect...

The ebay watch:


My "honest" 145.005-67 currently OHPF awaiting some corrective surgery before completion of the deal, shown for purposes of comparison:


Firstly, before looking at the Ebay listing, do you think that first dial could be refinished or is it just in excellent condition?

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The seller?

A little background on the seller... here.

Now, do you think it's a redial?

 

Doesn't look like a redial to me. The text is all pretty crisp, and the subdials are very sharp. If it is a redial, it's been done impeccably well.

 

Yeah, it does look like either a really well done redial or a genuinely nice dial.

I have my doubts if that dial ever knew those hands, that case or movement before the recent past, mind Looks like the movement serial number is a very long way ahead of mine...

 

Suspect hands or not, I prefer the ebay one!

 

Dial I don’t question... hands and Chrono creep I do.

Dial lume.. verdicts out.

 

Not a redial, IMO. These are usually easy to spot when looking closely at the subdials.
The hands I don't know about, but the look like late-sixties issue, and given the black inlay I would have liked there to be some black inlay on the markers, too.

 

I wouldn't bother with the watch. The seller is going to be a real issue. Ewan, avoid!

 

Buy the seller not the watch...

 

Don't worry, I wasn't ever thinking of buying - just watching from the sidelines and thought I'd share for posterity.

So far, the consensus seems to be that the dial may well be original - in which case, it's very nice indeed.
But IMHO, the movement dates to mid 1960s (on a 1967 watch - not impossible, but might need some explaining / an extract), and the hands are unlike the hands of any other 145.005-67 I've seen photos of.

Someone paid £3,500 for it on Ebay.

 

With the inox infill in the hands, I'd bet they came off something dressy in the constellation/seamaster lines...

 

I had a 1970 Geneve with those hands btw.

 

Nice dial, wrong hands