Saw a vintage Longines on eBay I wanted to watch for pricing purposes. It was just listed a few minutes prior at $599 or Best Offer, but when I clicked on the listing it was showing $1200 or Best Offer. A minute later the first screen showed it at $1200 also. I wanted to know what happened so I asked the seller. Here's the response I got: "We just listed the item and about 30 seconds later already had multiple offers. So the price has been changed to reflect the obvious demand for this watch. If you would like to make an offer, please feel free to do so and it will be considered along with the other offers!" So double the asking price because you had offers lower than the original $599? Hmmmm, maybe that's what our new company policy should be! Think we'll stay in business?
Take a look at the bidding on this one and tell me if there's a 0 feedback shill at work: http://www.ebay.com/itm/121213523403?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network I think it's worthy of reporting for fraudulent listing practices but what do you guys say?
Looks to me like the only legitimate bidder was the fourth bid for $1.29 Does the seller think that no other bidder would notice????
That's what the thread title all about. Insulting logic of the bidder. Well in any population.....I mean any, not mentioning country, nation, race etc............there is always a sliver of moronic / gullible segment.
Over 650 bids for the same seller's items (including 91 on one item alone) He has even "won" three auctions and hasn't received any feedback. This is shilling at its most stupid. It does need reporting.
Back to the original post... I see similar stupidity when something doesn't sell the first time so its re-listed at a HIGHER price.
Yep, seen that dozens of times. I once asked the seller of an 80's Bucherer day/date why he relisted it at $799 when it didn't sell at $599 the first time. His reply was "You should have bought it the first time". Normally I would have said "It isn't worth the $599 so what makes you think I'd buy it at $799?" but I must have been ill so I dropped it.
I can understand this to some degree, when something is listed at $2,600 and you get offers of $2,200 some people may think if I offer it at $2,900 I will get offers of $2,500
No, I'm talking about fixed price listings with no best offer option and auctions with higher starting prices.
To be fair to eBay, I find that well over 90% of sellers are honest and upfront about their product. I've bought a lot of things other than watches on there, too. That success factor seems to drop the more expensive the item. So greed certainly plays a factor in shilling and other shenanigans that go on. I do pretty well there, but I know what I'm dealing with for the most part and have a pretty good Spidey Sense for nonsense. gatorcpa
Here's another great conversation, copied & pasted including my typochondriacs included: Me: "Would you take $$$$ for it iincluding shipping? Thanks!" Seller: "Nope - it will sell at this price quickly so if you want it buy it. Thanks" Me: "You might be right. Good luck with your sale and thanks for the quick response!" (at this point I thought the exchange would end - and it should have but check out the next statement) Seller: "It actually already sold at this price but the buyer didn't pay so I just relisted it yesterday. Thanks" Me: "Um, if the buyer didn't pay then it didn't really sell. Sorry to pick nits, but you're making my argument for a lower offer more sound if you think about what you just told me. Anyway, good luck! It's a nice watch." The more I get back into dealing on eBay, the less I want to deal with eBay.
It's not eBay, it's the idiots that sell on eBay. Some people have outsize egos and they just don't like to be questioned. I remember years ago when I went to the Portobello Road Market in London. Long before I collected watches. I saw a seller with some nice old British coins in a bin. There were no prices, so I looked in there and found several that I liked. I asked the seller for the price, and he quoted me a decent price which I was prepared to pay. I figured a few extra pounds in my pocket were better, so I made him a slightly lower, but still fair offer. He took the coins and literally threw them back in the bin. I just didn't want to waste the effort to find them again. Assholes are everywhere, gatorcpa