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Hello All,

Short time member - soon to be first time Omega owner.

Which one should I go for:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OMEGA-GE...042375?hash=item2ca6cd6fc7:g:etUAAOSwUdlWgTYc

The Spanish day doesn't bother me.

The dial has a couple of marks on it - which I take as being a sign of authenticity.

Alternatively:

http://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/ge...tomatic-41mm-cal1010-17j-steel--id4005500.htm

My concern with this one is the movement (look at me go with these posh words). The movement looks as though it has been beaten up. And try as I might, I just cant find any mention of a 1010 being in a Dynamic Geneve

Or:

Would you tell me to stay away from both of them?

Thank you all.

Scott
 
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The good news is that these watches are relatively cheap, which means that they are unlikely to be fake. The difficult bit is knowing which references come with which movement etc. I have seen plenty of pictures of these watches and most have brushed steel cases, I have also seen some with polished cases but my understanding is that they should have brushed cases. I also think that there are a lot of them that have replacement parts on them but I am no means an expert. @SpikiSpikester can help with the authenticity etc of these watches. The price seems ok if nothing else.
I bought this one the other day.http://www.ebay.com/itm/331748200919?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT.

I was thinking about this one because I liked the dial, but the case put me off. I emailed the seller and she told me I could end the auction early for 350 pounds. it sold for 190 pounds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111865413005?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

The one I bought I paid 399 euro for which was a good price I think. Now, next problem, explaining buying the watch to my wife....oh well first world problems.
 
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Don't touch either of them.

1. The day/date one is correct. However, the marks on the dial are not a sign of authenticity. They are a sign of bad care or bad servicing. Both possibilities are a red flag. To me it looks like oil has been dropped onto the dial during a service. Stay away from it - if the movement is bad then you can easily spend more than the value of the watch in trying to sort it out.

2. Run. Now. That movement was never originally in that watch. The case should have a radial brushed finish. Instead, its been polished to death and it kills the watch. It's an expensive mess & the salvageable parts have relatively little intrinsic value.

Desmond wrote a great article that is well worth studying if you like these watches. There's a great table at the back that explains the features and movements of each reference: https://omegaforums.net/attachments/omega-geneve-dynamic-i-pdf.459/

If you have any questions, just post them on the forum. Good luck !
 
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I was thinking about this one because I liked the dial, but the case put me off. I emailed the seller and she told me I could end the auction early for 350 pounds. it sold for 190 pounds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111865413005?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

You dodged a bullet there. At £190 it could still be said to be overpriced...

It's a terrible redial, wrong fonts, incorrect shade of blue, inaccurate markers. The second hand is wrong, the hour/minute hands need repainting, the case is poor, the case back is overpolished. It's a car crash of yuck.

If you like the racing dial pattern, then this is the sort of thing to aim for:

498.231e.jpg

This is a pic I just grabbed off a Google search. There are colour variations & I like the silver ones. Beware of any in outlandish colours, especially from SE Asia, as most of them are redials.
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Thank you guys.

Spike - I had previously read that article. The schedule at the back was what alerted me to the 1010 movement potential problem.

I had also read a few of the other threads (the one where a couple of you guys have posted photos of dynamic collections).

I was getting suspicious.

I thought I'd be overly cautious and hope you would respond.

Thank you all.

I will keep searching.

Scott
 
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You dodged a bullet there. At £190 it could still be said to be overpriced...

It's a terrible redial, wrong fonts, incorrect shade of blue, inaccurate markers. The second hand is wrong, the hour/minute hands need repainting, the case is poor, the case back is overpolished. It's a car crash of yuck.

If you like the racing dial pattern, then this is the sort of thing to aim for:

498.231e.jpg

This is a pic I just grabbed off a Google search. There are colour variations & I like the silver ones. Beware of any in outlandish colours, especially from SE Asia, as most of them are redials.
I have one with a racing dial that I bought from a member here. I love this particular model and aim to collect a few of them. Thanks for the lnk to the article, looking forward to reading that one.
 
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By coincidence, I bought this yesterday. It's not normally my sort of thing, but it was being sold by the original owner, who had bought it in Leicester in 1973. It's in great condition and still has the original strap fitted. A ten minute clean up and a bit of leather cream on the strap and its looks great, wears really well and works well. The dial really is stunning. I am just doing my research to find out what I have bought (I don't normally do it that way around) but at less than $300 all in, I thought that I would take a chance. All being well, I will get it serviced and wear it.
 
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I Like that as well. The thing that struck me wearing it for the first time was how comfortable it was. I am sure having a supple and worn leather strap helps, but it is uncanny. However, I also like the steel bracket. From a desirability point of view is my manual version, towards the bottom of the pile, all things being equal?

 
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I would be grateful if one of the guys who are knowledgeable about these watches could confirm that the watch I have bought below is this model.



That being the case, while this strap is clearly old, and corfam not leather, should it have originally come with a SS bracelet? Thanks in advance. (sorry for the thread hijack, but it may also help the OP)


 
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No worries about the hijack.

I am starting to realise that this "watch hunting" is worse than fishing!

I need to have patience .... and I am not overly blessed with it.
 
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I would be grateful if one of the guys who are knowledgeable about these watches could confirm that the watch I have bought below is this model.



That being the case, while this strap is clearly old, and corfam not leather, should it have originally come with a SS bracelet? Thanks in advance. (sorry for the thread hijack, but it may also help the OP)



It should be a cal 601 manual wind & the model no. you identified. If it's a cal 552 automatic wind model then it'd typically say "Automatic" on the dial.

Originally it would have come on either a SS bracelet or a Corfam strap. The Corfam was a new synthetic material at the time, but they disintegrated over time so it's unusual to find any intact now. Omega started making replacement straps in leather in the early 70s because of this.

The aftermarket replacements available now are variable in materials and quality and cost £15-30. I like the suede ones but they're aftermarket and sometimes they're cut too thick to fit under the screw ring, so you take a bit of a chance they might not be useable.

Proper vintage leather straps can sometimes be found, although they can cost in the £70-100 range depending on condition.

SS bracelets are also easy to find in the aftermarket. Personally I'm not so keen on paying the £80+ that some sellers want for their CAD copies, especially as Omega vintage ones can be had for that type of money.

I've also discovered that the original SS bracelets are not always interchangeable across different watches - fairly often they don't quite fit properly/easily on other Dynamics. Whether that's due to machining tolerances changing very slightly across the life of the models, variances in different case batches/suppliers, or just subtle changes caused by wear, I don't know.
 
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That's very kind, thanks for the info. It is indeed a manual wind so a cal 601. I will have to wait until the service to check the serial number to date it. Thanks again.
 
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Omega still sells straps, buckles, and the bracelets for these. The straps are pretty reasonably priced (going from memory of the last one I bought), but a new bracelet will set you back several hundred...

When you do get the watch open you are likely to see as many as 4 reference numbers inside as this case was used with both manual and auto versions, with and without date.

Cheers, Al
 
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Excellent. Thanks, looking at the watch again, it does have the omega logo in the crystal and it is an original corfam strap, maybe its never been opened.
 
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Resurrecting an old thread

does anyone know who made these dynamic cases?

the symbol seems to be a M with an upturned triangle on top of it

 
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By coincidence, I bought this yesterday. It's not normally my sort of thing, but it was being sold by the original owner, who had bought it in Leicester in 1973. It's in great condition and still has the original strap fitted. A ten minute clean up and a bit of leather cream on the strap and its looks great, wears really well and works well. The dial really is stunning. I am just doing my research to find out what I have bought (I don't normally do it that way around) but at less than $300 all in, I thought that I would take a chance. All being well, I will get it serviced and wear it.
That’s really nice 😎

Oops, that was an old post. Still enjoying the watch though?
 
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hi, can someone give the link of the old trend, because I have a dynamic 166039 but the number written in the box is the first 166039 and it doesn't have the M at the bottom.