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  1. dazzathethird Jul 9, 2013

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    I'm sure this has been asked a million times before, but

    When did the dot over the 90 start being the dot next to the 90 on speedmasters?
     
  2. ulackfocus Jul 9, 2013

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    Well, the Equal Employment Opportunity Act was passed in 1972.....
     
  3. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Jul 9, 2013

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    Oooh, that was also the year one of our greatest reformist Prime Ministers wa elected
     
  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 9, 2013

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    1969-1970
     
  5. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 9, 2013

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    .....ALTHOUGH......
    In another forum there was a discussion where a member produced a correspondence from Omega that claimed that both types of bezel were fitted concurrently, (From different manufacturers), and that it is not incorrect equipment for a pre 69 to have an otherwise period bezel with a dot next to 90.

    It makes sense to me, although I still pay a premium for the dot overs. The rest of the market agrees with me, but I do often wonder at the irony of our focusing on this tiny detail that possibly is founded on an erroneous assumption.
     
  6. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 9, 2013

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    Respectfully disagree - I think at least for the 321s the dot next to 90 bezel is not correct from the factory.
     
  7. anssi301 Jul 9, 2013

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  8. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 9, 2013

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  9. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 9, 2013

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    Well I for one have always believed that DO90's are correct, but my faith has been shaken slightly on reading this, and I quote a post from another forum (forgive me if I break any rules here, its in the public domain):

    While this is perceived and oft stated internet Omega wisdom (note, it is not modern - no accent on TACHYMETRE, plus large font)

    I had a long chat about this bezel with the Omega museum (and archivist) this week and they stated a side dot 90 bezel was correct as there were multiple suppliers at the time. They were quite adamant that things were not as hard and fast and consistent as we (internet inhabitants) like to make out.

    BTW the 105.003 example physically in the Omega museum has a side dot 90 bezel.

    I have a 105.003-64 with this bezel, hence my query at the museum.

    I'm accepting the word of God on this personally, even if that means going against the flow.

    So assuming this exchange to be real, is the Archivist wrong? Or is there a POSSIBILITY that DN90's were fitted to 105.003's?
     
  10. OttawaMan Jul 9, 2013

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    Intreguing topic...I am not very familiar with speedmasters yet though I think it will be my next watch. Can someone present pictures of both bezels?
     
  11. dazzathethird Jul 9, 2013

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    so maybe not such a dumb question after all ;)
     
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  12. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 9, 2013

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    Hearsay. And with all due respect to the omega museum staff, I daresay the collective knowledge in this forum regarding vintage omegas is as good as you are going to get anywhere in the world (Purists is great too but it is significantly less active).
     
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  13. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Jul 9, 2013

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    Indeed they are. Look at this glass cases full of vintage speedy. Almost all including this lovely 2998-2 lollipop second hand has replacement bezel with dot next to 90. If you see, it is just too fresh compare to the case and dial.
    IMAG0683-1.jpg

    IMAG0695-1.jpg

    However ALL of the astronauts' speedies have dot over 90 bezel (there are 5 of them)
     
  14. toddmp Jul 9, 2013

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    love those lollipop hands.
     
  15. MKelley Jul 11, 2013

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    No, it's a great question that garners lots of response.
     
  16. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 13, 2013

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    That bezel is the type used between 1969 and 1990, as shown by the script used in "Tachymetre" and no dot under the 70.

    You do need to look out for the bezel used after 1996 until about 2006, which is very similar to the dot over 90's in most respects except for the dot over. These appear on restored watches or as service replacements and look almost identical. The one that Private has posted is a good illustration of that.