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Double signed Universal Geneve
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerMauricet. Can't really find what it is/was https://curator.org/item/5bc2ea6243379afd834dae66f23a4f15
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iltdy
·Here is my HPC DUO pack
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerRef 224100 Freccero (which is for sale here):
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EFK
·Greetings everyone !
My first post on this forum
This is the watch I inherited from my father a few years ago
I'd like to know if anyone could give me more information
I know it's a gold Polerouter date and that it has a double signature (Türler)
But I have no idea of the manufacturing date, nor can I find a serial number on the case back or inside.
The crown doesn't have the Universal U symbol either, but I don't know if that's normal or maybe it was replaced at some point
There seems to be some inscriptions inside the case back, as well as on one of the lugs
Thanks
My first post on this forum
This is the watch I inherited from my father a few years ago
I'd like to know if anyone could give me more information
I know it's a gold Polerouter date and that it has a double signature (Türler)
But I have no idea of the manufacturing date, nor can I find a serial number on the case back or inside.
The crown doesn't have the Universal U symbol either, but I don't know if that's normal or maybe it was replaced at some point
There seems to be some inscriptions inside the case back, as well as on one of the lugs
Thanks
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Carlton-Browne
·The key marking inside the caseback is a Poinçon de Maître from the city of Geneva and means that the gold case was made by Wenger.
https://vintagewatchstraps.com/swisspdm.php#pdm5
As far as I can make out, the remainder of the etchings are service marks from various watchmakers (unusual though not particularly attractive for one to score the back of the lugs) and one of those encounters has resulted in the crown being replaced. If you look at the caseback carefully and in different light can you see any faint indication of stamped numbers?
https://vintagewatchstraps.com/swisspdm.php#pdm5
As far as I can make out, the remainder of the etchings are service marks from various watchmakers (unusual though not particularly attractive for one to score the back of the lugs) and one of those encounters has resulted in the crown being replaced. If you look at the caseback carefully and in different light can you see any faint indication of stamped numbers?
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EFK
·The key marking inside the caseback is a Poinçon de Maître from the city of Geneva and means that the gold case was made by Wenger.
https://vintagewatchstraps.com/swisspdm.php#pdm5
As far as I can make out, the remainder of the etchings are service marks from various watchmakers (unusual though not particularly attractive for one to score the back of the lugs) and one of those encounters has resulted in the crown being replaced. If you look at the caseback carefully and in different light can you see any faint indication of stamped numbers?
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Carlton-Browne
·Even that looks weird and done by hand. It should resemble this:
I suppose it's possible that some idiot has refinished the caseback and tried to put the case reference and serial number back by hand.
I suppose it's possible that some idiot has refinished the caseback and tried to put the case reference and serial number back by hand.
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EFK
·Thanks again for the info
With magnifying glasses and better light I can read
104604-1
21187xx
So from the UG information post on this forum the watch should be made around 1960-1961 right ?
Does it greatly affect the value if the crown is not the original?
With magnifying glasses and better light I can read
104604-1
21187xx
So from the UG information post on this forum the watch should be made around 1960-1961 right ?
Does it greatly affect the value if the crown is not the original?
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerFreccero
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··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerFantastic Verga ref 7337 , published in Sala and now for sale https://www.finarte.it/auction/fine...-compax-7337-retailed-by-verga-154603?lang=en
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Frenkling
·Fantastic Verga ref 7337 , published in Sala and now for sale https://www.finarte.it/auction/fine...-compax-7337-retailed-by-verga-154603?lang=en
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Frenkling
·Very rare Polerouter ref. 204610 Au Diademe Lausanne, sold on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335963010124
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335963010124
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerI've seen other watches with a circular mark on the minute track similar to the one on this watch. It's wider than the minute hand, so I ruled out that possibility. Does anyone have any ideas?
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leonlecoultre
·Possibly all replacement hands when the (because) sweep hand rubbed on the dial?
The current seep hand appears larger and would hit where the rub mark is.
I am not a big fan of heat- treated/blued hands on gold.
The current seep hand appears larger and would hit where the rub mark is.
I am not a big fan of heat- treated/blued hands on gold.
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