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Dogleg piepan: Repainted or original?!

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Hello everyone, I just found this one today. It looks good but maybe the piepan edge doesn’t look sharp. Should I take it or let it pass?! Pls let me know your opinion on whether the dial is original or repainted. Thank you
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Dan S
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Fancy photos. What are your specific concerns based on comparisons with other examples?
 
hant26
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That’s all the photos I have. I just want to know your opinion!?
 
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I don't know if it's repainted or not. I like it. This means that the fonts seem correct, I don't see misalignments.
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hoipolloi hoipolloi
Are you sure it is a 168.005?
No. I haven’t seen the case back. But that doesn’t matter. Do you see any problem on the dial?!
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hant26 hant26
No. I haven’t seen the case back. But that doesn’t matter. Do you see any problem on the dial?!
Yes
 
hoipolloi
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hant26 hant26
You said " something is off". That means you have seen something is not right.
Now is the time for you to sharpen your skill by looking at all the details that you have not looked at yet.
Good luck.
 
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hoipolloi hoipolloi
Now is the time for you to sharpen your skill by looking at all the details that you have not looked at yet.
Good luck.
Well I think the piepan edge seems blur so maybe the dial has been repainted. And the minute marker No.33 is diffirent than the others. But in general, the repaint job was done quite well.
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I don’t think the pictures have enough definition to make a determination. When I blow up the 33 minute marker, I can’t tell if there is dirt on the dial or a bad repaint. Could be either.

That is why one needs to purchase a watch like this either on person or on approval with a full return provision.
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hant26
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Right. Those photos aren’t good enough to see all detail. I will ask for better resolution photos or to meet directly then
 
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@hant26
It’s not always a zero sum game.

You don’t need better pics or to see the watch in person.
There doesn’t appear to be anything wrong with the dial IMHO

But

Either
The movt doesn’t belong to the case and dial
Or
The dial doesn’t belong to the case and movt.

Look at the movt serial number and closely at the indices.
That will tell you why.
 
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
There doesn’t appear to be anything wrong with the dial IMHO
Have you compared the sizes of the letters on those three lines?
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@hant26
It’s not always a zero sum game.

You don’t need better pics or to see the watch in person.
There doesn’t appear to be anything wrong with the dial IMHO

But

Either
The movt doesn’t belong to the case and dial
Or
The dial doesn’t belong to the case and movt.

Look at the movt serial number and closely at the indices.
That will tell you why.
I think I am in danger of learning something from this thread! 😀
 
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
Either
The movt doesn’t belong to the case and dial
Or
The dial doesn’t belong to the case and movt.

Look at the movt serial number and closely at the indices.
That will tell you why
Do you think that the dial has painted indices? I really can't tell from the pictures.

Since we don't have pictures of the caseback or reference, I can neither agree nor disagree with you.

hoipolloi hoipolloi
Have you compared the sizes of the letters on those three lines?
Show me a head-on picture without a crystal and then I can compare.

Let's not play games with this anymore. It's not fair to the OP.

Do what they say, say what they mean. (One thing...one thing leads to another! - The Fixx).
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hoipolloi
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
Do you think that the dial has painted indices? I really can't tell from the pictures.

Since we don't have pictures of the caseback or reference, I can neither agree nor disagree with you.


Show me a head-on picture without a crystal and then I can compare.

Let's not play games with this anymore. It's not fair to the OP.

Do what they say, say what they mean. (One thing...one thing leads to another! - The Fixx).
gatorcpa
Looks like you are too old and your eyes are not sharp anymore.
The sellers who sell redialed or frankened watches never give you a clear and head on picture to look at.
You have to dig deep into details behind those small signs.
 
gatorcpa
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hoipolloi hoipolloi
The sellers who sell redialed or frankened watches never give you a clear and head on picture to look at.
Which is why I keep saying you have to see it in person.
gatorcpa
 
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hoipolloi hoipolloi
Have you compared the sizes of the letters on those three lines?
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to be honest, I was looking on my phone and took any variation to be the angle of the image.
'automatic' does look larger than 'chronometer'
why would a redialler get everything else pretty much spot on and miss that detail?

Either way, redial or replacement dial, the dial doesn't belong with the movt.
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
Do you think that the dial has painted indices? I really can't tell from the pictures.

Since we don't have pictures of the caseback or reference, I can neither agree nor disagree with you.


Show me a head-on picture without a crystal and then I can compare.

Let's not play games with this anymore. It's not fair to the OP.

Do what they say, say what they mean. (One thing...one thing leads to another! - The Fixx).
gatorcpa

Even on a phone you can clearly see that the indices are painted - or at least not onyx inserts.

For my part, I don't think anyone is playing games.
I tried to point out to the OP that the simple, single question they were asking wasn't the right approach.
Whether the dial is redialled or a good replacement, it doesn't belong with the movement in the watch, no matter the case reference - and he doesn't need to see the watch in person to ascertain that.
I pointed the OP to the mismatched parts and I don't think it is unreasonable for them to look into why they are mismatched - that's how we all learn.


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