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  1. Aqw1942 Jun 22, 2017

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    Not sure if this is genuine? If it is, at $1500 is this a fair price for 1990 era Speedy?
     
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  2. skkali168 Jun 22, 2017

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    Going pretty cheap- I hope it’s real
     
  3. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 22, 2017

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    Looks genuine but you know it is a Speedmaster Reduced right? That price is ok, not super cheap but ok. Check it out carefully, those are modular construction movement and are tricky to get fixed when they go wrong as many independents won't touch them. Many get sold on when they need a service so check everything is running right, or bank on spending another ~$550-600 to service it soon.

    ps that serial and the fact it uses the 3220 rather than v similar 1140 says it is late 90s/early 00s not circa 1990.
     
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  4. noiseboyuk Jun 22, 2017

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    The Speedmaster 'reduced' automatic movement variants are considerably less expensive than their regular 'brothers'.
    It's probably worth a bit of international 'trawling' to establish a true value.
     
  5. Bumper Jun 22, 2017

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    I've seen these go for 20% less.
     
  6. Aqw1942 Jun 22, 2017

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    Will pass. Thanks.

    So much to learn. Didn't know "Speedmaster Reduced". Researching that now. I wouldn't have thought completely different. Was thinking a slightly smaller watch would go better on my 6 3/4" wrist. Recommendations on which Speedmaster to look for? I kind of feel 42 is about right.
     
  7. Aqw1942 Jun 22, 2017

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    I found a site - Speedmaster101. Devouring information now! Thanks!
     
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  8. bama2141 Jun 22, 2017

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    Speedmaster Pros typically wear a bit smaller than the 42mm would imply. I'd venture to say that it would be fine on your wrist.
     
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  9. shaun hk Fairy nuffer Jun 22, 2017

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    I learnt recently you can buy a complete 3220 movement for $300 so there seems to be little point in servicing one!
     
  10. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jun 22, 2017

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    Can I ask where? I doubt you will find a brand new, in-package movement for that sort of money...
     
  11. Tiny Iota Could potentially be the Official OF Stalker ™ Jun 22, 2017

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    The FOIS (First Omega In Space) is a little smaller, 40mm.
     
  12. Jackee Jun 22, 2017

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    39.7mm ;)
     
  13. jimmyd13 Jun 22, 2017

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    I am wearing a 33mm Heuer on my 8 inch wrists today ... don't get fixated on size (I sound like an agony aunt). I've got 48mm watches that wear well and as small as 33mm. I have found plenty of 42mm ones that are way too big on the wrist. Best and only advice - try them on. You may well find that a 38mm is perfect ... in which case, wanna buy a Rolex?
     
  14. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 22, 2017

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    Try before you buy. A full size Speedmaster will look and feel big on that size of wrist, but it may still be wearable. Be aware that the FOIS and Pro measurements mentioned above may sound rather different but in fact the dial and bezel are the same size so the watch wears pretty much the same, the difference is in the crown/pusher guards which the FOIS/CK2998/2915 reissue don't have. There are fans on here who would wear a Speedy even with a 2 inch wrist but as I say, they aren't for everyone.
     
  15. shaun hk Fairy nuffer Jun 23, 2017

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  16. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 23, 2017

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    Uhuh. Now find one still for sale at that price. There is no denying that listing was very cheap but if you needed to source one at short notice then if you could find one, I would expect the price to be double that or more, triple even. I am sure Al can comment on the price Omega would charge to supply one to an authorised repairer but it won't be cheap.
     
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  17. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jun 23, 2017

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    I'm surprised to see one so cheaply. Given that the exchange price (the price paid when you send in your old movement and get a refurbished one back) from Omega is about $530 US, I'm not sure what to make of that sale.

    I had a look at one of their other sales for an Omega "Cal. 1150" as that was next on the list of their items that popped up:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OMEGA-1150-SPEEDMASTER-AUTO-WATCH-MOVEMENT-17-JEWELS-FACTORY-PACKAGING/391812786526?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=41451&meid=f97881d1e90c44f4b87309567bc53769&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=10&sd=311892492032Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    So the first thing that struck me was the gold colour of the movement, as all of these I've ever worked on that were Omega branded were rhodium plated. The rotor on this movement is marked 1150, but the package says the movement is an 1151, and the dial side of the movement confirms that it's an 1151 and not an 1150. The bearing for the rotor looks off, and the rotor itself is the wrong shape.

    The movement for sale is marked 17 jewels, and the 1151 has 25 jewels. Looking at the balance of that movement, it's fitted with fixed regulating pins and stud, and not the ETACHRON adjustment system that should be there. All that leads me to believe that this "1150" they have for sale is a complete fake - package dated 21st week of 2014, and something that new would not look like this for sure. So for those who don't want to click the link, here is the movement being sold as an 1150:

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    And here is what a real 1151 looks like that I just finished servicing:

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    Just for reference, a legit 1151 from Omega costs about $2,000...not the $300 this place is charging for their junk.

    So although the 3220 for sale looks legit in terms of being an actual Omega movement, I'm not sure I trust the seller much. If the package for the 1150/1151 fake is not for the movement in question, the where is this guy getting the packages from? He's in NJ not far from the Swatch service center, so is someone picking through the garbage at Swatch for used packaging that they are using to sell dubious movements? Are these being sold out the back door by someone at Swatch? Who knows, but I don't think I would buy one personally.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  18. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Jun 23, 2017

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    great info (as usual!), Archer.
     
  19. shaun hk Fairy nuffer Jun 23, 2017

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    Wow, thanks for looking into these. I now feel lucky for not buying the 3220 movement, rather than disappointed!