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  1. omegastar Apr 20, 2016

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    I have been proposed this very nice bumper, but I am not sure the dial is original. I would like to know what the honorable members think about it. Thank you very much.
    Mounir

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  2. omegastar Apr 20, 2016

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    Is anybody out there ?
     
  3. al128 unsolicited co-moderation giverer Apr 20, 2016

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    Imho Not original...

    No Swiss , almost sterile appearance, weird distribution of omega and automatic
     
  4. mondodec Editor Constellation Collectors Blog Apr 20, 2016

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    A better than usual refinished dial with a pleasing two-tone effect. So, dial has been repainted, but is authentic. Hard to say what the original finish was.

    Cheers

    Desmond
     
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  5. DON Apr 20, 2016

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    Most likely, but nice job on the dial. I like it. If you like it. Don't worry about the dial. It's not a rare watch and refinished dial makes it a nice dress or work watch

    DON
     
  6. omegastar Apr 20, 2016

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    I must admit I am puzzled, but how can you be so sure ?
    I compared the Omega automatic writing with a legit one and they are the same, same typo and same disposition.
    I think the markers are not applied so how could one refinish in such a way without taking them off?
     
  7. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 20, 2016

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    It is refinished, but if all watches were refinished this well, we would probably be less concerned about refinished watches. Sure , original would be premium, but folks would not throw this type out the window.
     
  8. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Apr 20, 2016

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    Model spray brush

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  9. omegastar Apr 21, 2016

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    Ok looks like you all think it is repainted. So the market has decided. I will follow your advice and pass.
    But what if it was genuine ? Do we misjudge many original dials ?
    Thank you very much for helping me out.
    Mounir
     
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  11. omegastar Apr 21, 2016

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    Not right now, I am at work.
    The mvt is 11 million cal. 351 in nice condition.
    As you mentioned the general condition looks sharp and untouched.
    This is why I was puzzled, the dial reflects the general condition of the watch. On the other hand this dial is rather one of a kind. As I mentioned earlier the writing are correct compared to other period correct ones.
    Now if everybody thinks it is refinished for various reasons, even if it is genuine, is it a good investement ?
    I don't want to be in a Don Quichote position the day I want sell it.
    What is your opinion ?
     
  12. OMEGA 1961 Apr 21, 2016

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    this is the mother of all redial
     
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  13. mondodec Editor Constellation Collectors Blog Apr 21, 2016

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    Generally speaking, what a number of longer term collectors are saying is that it 'looks' refinished. An opinion, granted, and there is always the possibility that one can be mistaken. I agree that the case is sharp, looks a lot like a 2420 or a 2597, and the hands are pristine. It is possible that this piece has languished in a dark cupboard for most of its life, but the printed markers opposite the applied markers look too fat to me for a watch of this period.

    The lettering looks okay from a distance, the the absence of Swiss Made or Swiss is a bit of an issue as. Perhaps a closeup of the dial in higher resolution?


     
  14. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Apr 21, 2016

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    Yes. It looks repainted to me, too.
    The fat minute markers (not sharp and too fat) and the Automatic with pointed A are what I hate. 20160421_061439.jpg 20160421_061536.jpg

    Both are from early 50's like yours.
     
  15. omegastar Apr 21, 2016

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    The A's of automatic are cut, like yours.
    They minute markers are fat, but they are well defined. That impression is a photo resolution problem.
    And it is not mine, since I passed.
    I am more and more thinking of a service dial.
    Thank you for your input
     
  16. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Apr 21, 2016

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    My two cents:

    Definitely not a dial that was original to the watch. Much too clean, and not a variation that is familiar to collectors.

    the case does look very sharp, but I'm not convinced that there wasn't some clever touch-up done on that as well. Crown doesn't look correct to me, either.