Dear Omega friends,
in a previous post I was looking for other ref. 2190 watches - like my new 30t2. Noone commented, so I think 2190 may be quite rare. Now I would like to ask what you think about the dial of my watch. It shows age/patina, but do you think it is authentic? Thank you in advance.

 

Dial and hands look OK to my eye, but let's politely ask forum expert @mac_omega for a review. He may know more about your 2190 case as well.

 

Looks good to my eyes as well.

 

oh baby can you say art deco?

 

Good and beautiful

 

I only wish I had aged as well as that dial. It's original and stunning. Great watch.

 

Thank you, guys, for your help, I am happy to hear this. (But if someone has other opinion, please post it.) I love the genuine helpfulness of this forum and the immense amount of information one can find and learn here.
If anyone else has a ref. 2190, it would be nice to see it!

 

A-ok. Can you share a pic of the movement?

Art

 

Sure. Sorry, it's not the best photo, I took it in a watch repair shop when I asked them to open the case. Serial is 10474605. What is your opinion?




And another pic of the inside of the case.

 

My sense is the movement likely falls within the range one would expect from the reference. There does seem to be a bit of space between the movement and case. Hopefully Al or Chris will weigh in.

Case is ~ 33 mm?

Art

 

Thank you for your observations, Art. I do not have the best tools to measure, but the case looks to be 32,5 or 33 mm to me.

 

Beautiful. Case looks 34mm.

 

Movement fits snugly into the case back which snaps into the case.

 

Beautiful watch.

 

You can see a large lip on the caseback that would replace that springie-thingie a lot of these have.

Tom

 

Where do you see an Incabloc in this photo? I can´t... maybe I have to go to the optometrist... or is it you to do so?

 

I was also wondering about this because I cannot see the incablock. Is the lack of incablock something problematic regarding authenticity or is it normal? On Chrono24 I can see some 30t2 watches with around 10.5 serials and no incablock.

 

Sorry that I am a bit late to the party...

Your watch is perfectly fine with an original dial and a clean looking movement which is a cal. 30 T2
Case is a special construction to prevent intrusion of dust and sweat.
There are no case screws required nor a movement spacer ring with flaps as the movement sits snugly in the case back.
This is not a common snap back but is like a (deeper than a regular case back) "container" which is deep enough to embrace the whole movement and precisely slips into the upper case part and is friction held. A good first attempt to protect the movement - much better than a regular snap back.

If I were you I would not bother that you can´t find information about this particular reference - all you need to know is there and clearly visible... or would you like to know production numbers - this is (likely) impossible to find out unless you have access to the holy inards of the Omega archives...

I have searched my photo archive but have not been able to find a ref 2190 as most of my "entries" of references are from a 1948 catalogue and younger and not all references produced are shown in those catalogues.

The fact that you can´t find information about the reference does not inevitably mean it is a super rare one - there have been too many references back then to keep track on all of them. And as these are quite old watches (75-80 years) there will not be too many survivors of every reference.
And a rarely found reference does not mean high collectibility or value unless it is a 30 Rg chronometer built in few examples only.
There are other imporant factors for value for these watches with common ordinary movements like design, preservation, originality of parts and (sadly) the size.
best
Erich