Do you sell your vintage Omega with (or separate from) it’s correct Bracelet and End Links??

Davidt · May 2, 2018

I have a one owner 105.003, never serviced and opened for the first time a month or two before it was sold to me. It has the original bracelet and endlinks.
I love 60's flat link bracelets yet for some reason I've never got around to putting the bracelet on this watch. It's always on a leather strap with the bracelet tagged and stored away. I don't plan on selling this watch but if I ever did, it would need to go as a package.

oddboy · May 2, 2018

Davidt
I have a one owner 105.003, never serviced and opened for the first time a month or two before it was sold to me. It has the original bracelet and endlinks.
I love 60's flat link bracelets yet for some reason I've never got around to putting the bracelet on this watch. It's always on a leather strap with the bracelet tagged and stored away. I don't plan on selling this watch but if I ever did, it would need to go as a package.

P.i.c.s!

Davidt · May 2, 2018

I'll get some but it will be a couple of weeks as it's in storage. The bracelet is a thing of beauty - two light scratches but the original finish and sharp!

eugeneandresson · May 2, 2018

ndgal
Pretty much impossible to confirm something like that beyond a reasonable doubt, unless you were the original owner, and have been with the watch every day for the past 20, 30, 40, or 50 years since you left the store with it...

Sounds almost like what her best friend answered her when Melanie asked about her Donny and the other girls...

😗

OP : doesn’t matter (unless it’s one of those scorcher full sets) as selling price of head with bracelet and endlinks would account for the price of the bracelet and endlinks were they to be sold apart...

Now if only I had it in my heart to sell a vintage omega...

Archer · May 3, 2018

ndgal
But on a serious note, if you can spend 30K on watches, then you certainly can afford the bracelet = only makes sense (to me at least) to go a head and buy the bracelets as well as they appreciate in value just as fast (if not faster) than the actual watch head. So no real reason leaving them out of the deal. Again, in the long run it always pays off.

As a strap guy, I don't really wear bracelets, so for me it would have nothing to do with budgets as you keep suggesting. If buying the bracelet "makes sense" to you that's fine, but suggesting people can't afford it if they want to break it up is just asinine.

ndgal · May 3, 2018

Archer
As a strap guy, I don't really wear bracelets, so for me it would have nothing to do with budgets as you keep suggesting. If buying the bracelet "makes sense" to you that's fine, but suggesting people can't afford it if they want to break it up is just asinine.

I’m not the one who suggested it. Re-read.

ndgal · May 3, 2018

Archer
but suggesting people can't afford it if they want to break it up is just asinine.

gemini4
Perhaps a wouldbe buyer only has the funds today for the watch head only.

If one only has the funds for the head, and can’t afford the bracelet = they shouldn’t be buying watches. Just my opinion.

Archer · May 3, 2018

ndgal
I’m not the one who suggested it. Re-read.

Don't need to re-read, but thanks for the suggestion. You may not have been the first one to suggest budget considerations, but you are certainly championing the idea...

ndgal
If one only has the funds for the head, and can’t afford the bracelet = they shouldn’t be buying watches. Just my opinion.

Yep, completely asinine...

ndgal · May 3, 2018

Archer
completely asinine

I agree. It is completely asinine buying the head only if one can’t afford the bracelet. (It means that they cannot afford the watch either...).

Archer · May 3, 2018

ndgal
I agree. It is completely asinine buying the head only if one can’t afford the bracelet. (It means that they cannot afford the watch either...).

ndgal · May 3, 2018

Archer

Why so angry? Because someone has a different opinion than yours?? Now that’s asinine!

jrhave2 · May 3, 2018

Hesitant to jump in here, but I usually negotiate a price decrease and skip the bracelet because I simply don't like bracelets. Not always, but the majority of the time. If it's an investment watch and the seller has the original bracelet in good condition, I'll buy it. Otherwise, I'm going to throw it on a strap anyway. In my experience, if it's a valuable bracelet, I've never had a seller push back.

Archer · May 3, 2018

ndgal

Why so angry? Because someone has a different opinion than yours?? Now that’s asinine!

Angry? Not sure where you get the idea I'm angry. But you seem to believe you know everyone's motivations and what they should do with their finances, so I guess it's no surprise you want to tell me how I feel too.

kingsrider · May 3, 2018

Good morning. This conversation seems to be primarily about Speedmasters and their bracelets. My 2998 came to me on a 7912. I believe the bracelet original to the watch based on where the watch had been prior to me receiving it. The watch had been in a safety deposit box since the mid seventies. I would never separate them.
On the other hand, I have on multiple occasions, split up more modestly priced watches (Omegas) and their bracelets. As was discussed recently in another thread, some watches do not sell for more with a bracelet attached. The bracelet seems to have little or no affect on the value. This opens up the opportunity to make a profit on the flip.

Vintagewtchzilla · May 3, 2018

BenBagbag
Weren't all Speedmasters sold on bracelets? Aren't you a Master of Speed, Dennis?

no they weren't, in many/most countries you could get them with leather or bracelet

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the bracelets in good condition get also harder to source so if i can get a watch with bracelet i will be happy. and i would also sell with bracelet again ...

Kmart · May 3, 2018

kingsrider
As was discussed recently in another thread, some watches do not sell for more with a bracelet attached. The bracelet seems to have little or no affect on the value.

I think you often see the same phenomenon with serviced watches. Anyone who has tried to sell a watch that they've just had serviced will tell you that it's usually impossible to recoup the value of say a $600 service with a sale, since buyers won't pay a significant premium just for a serviced watch most of the time. The only difference is that in this case you can separate the head and bracelet, while if buyers don't want to cover the cost of your service in your asking price, you're pretty much SOL.

dragoman · May 3, 2018

U ulackfocus
Since bracelets were often (but not always) dealer options, I see no reason why they can't be sold separately. In the rare case that it's a confirmed fact that the bracelet is original to the watch, then they should stay together.

..... and you should make the buyer sign a waiver, in blood, that they will NEVER EVER break up the pair.

This is a confirmed original pair, with original end-pieces

How many split seconds would they stay together, if the head is sold at its market price, with the bracelet attached?

tyrantlizardrex · May 3, 2018

ndgal
I agree. It is completely asinine buying the head only if one can’t afford the bracelet. (It means that they cannot afford the watch either...).

A watch doesn't stop being a watch because it doesn't have a bracelet.

Not wanting to pay the extra for a bracelet doesn't mean that someone can't afford to buy a watch.

As I said, I've sold watches and kept bracelets... it was neither a big deal to me, or the buyer.

Sounds like you need to maybe take a walk, or a cold shower or something.

Taddyangle · May 3, 2018

gemini4
Perhaps a would be buyer only has the funds today for the watch head only.

This resonates with me...

I bought the skeleton head, it had a leather strap. I wanted it with the 18 k gold bracelet. This watch rarely comes for sale, and the last two that did, both came with gold bracelets and with price points that were extraordinary.

Anyone want to separate their 18k gold bracelet from their gold speedy?

I will most likely buy the bracelet at the Omega Boutique, but will need to sell a few watches so that I have the funds to make this purchase. Or I may relocate to Canada (Ontario) so I can apply for basic income

BenBagbag · May 3, 2018

Taddyangle
This resonates with me...

I bought the skeleton head, it had a leather strap. I wanted it with the 18 k gold bracelet. This watch rarely comes for sale, and the last two that did, both came with gold bracelets and with price points that were extraordinary.

Anyone want to separate their 18k gold bracelet from their gold speedy?

I will most likely buy the bracelet at the Omega Boutique, but will need to sell a few watches so that I have the funds to make this purchase. Or I may relocate to Canada (Ontario) so I can apply for basic income

All you have to do is sell 2 or 3 Invicta for MSRP. Easy money.