Do you love "Patina"? show us why.

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Where does the patina end and where does a heavily damaged dial begin?
 
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Pristine and patina both have their charm. However, I find my appreciation for patina has probably grown as I've gotten older and acquired a certain patina myself....

Good one. Haha Nice collection
 
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Will the patina continue spreading? What causes it? On my omega for example the omega symbol
is barley noticeable, will it disappear with time? Love to hear you opinion.
 
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Two with lovely patina. One radium burn and I guess the other is probably moisture but I really like them.
 
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I have found that I really enjoy looking at patina on other people's watches. It's interesting and enjoyable in small doses. However, the novelty of heavy patina tends to wear off over time, for me personally. Here is one that I liked at first, but ultimately sold.

 
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This one by Marsimaxam looks almost new, cant see any patina of am i missing something?



Yes, you have missed something

the lume on this would have been white originally. Over the years its turned to an attractive cream Colour

wrt your watch - i suspect its mold on your dial from past (or present) water damage. If the watch is now sealed, and all water removed, the mold shouldnt spread further ( or the water damage shouldnt cause any more dial or dial laquer damage)

so, is the watch sealed properly, and when was it last serviced ?

personally, your watch doesnt have what i would call “patina”, your watch has a damaged dial, and to me its not attractive

but hey, i dont own it or have to look at it, so as long as you are happy, thats all that counts
 
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But don't all lumes fade with time? all dials age with time, right.
Not exactly, vintage dials and lumes all do age but too varying degrees, however, the materials used today, in my opinion ( ask me in another 50 years), will not age in the same manner as vintage watches that used radium or tritium as the luminous material. The materials today are far more stable in my opinion, but time will tell as it always does.
Damaged dials from excess moisture, etc are not considered patina.
Hope this answers your question.
 
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I guess that I'm an exception to the I love patina crowd. I'm ok with some light spotting or yellowing of a dial. Likewise, I'm ok with graceful aging of the lume on certain models - the way that tritium turns a creamy yellow on 90's Speedmasters, for example. But after a certain point, it's just dial damage and puts me off as a buyer. I get much more excited about finding vintage models that are original and in really good shape. Harder to accomplish, yes, but I enjoy the hunt and am willing to wait for exceptional examples and pay for them.
I know of quite a few collectors who feel the same way as you do, but, remember, there is a difference between patina, a natural aging process versus a damaged dial from excess moisture, etc.
Enjoy the hunt.
 
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I define patina on a dial as the changes that naturally occur with age. If taken too far it, simply becomes damage. Lume that ages gracefully from its original near-white Color to a creamy, or toasted almond color Is just spectacular IMHO. This:



Or this - I love the lume plots with a clean dial and a sharp original case shape


This Sky Chief dial now has the color of a Hershey bar, and lovely lume plot color


This Hanhart is one of my favorites for what I believe to be honest wear and Patina. The dial is clean and aged nicely, and the nickel plated case shows brassing from years of wear. My watchmaker knows I’d be really unhappy if he were to clean the green tarnish off this case.


And finally a well preserved original dial and case on this IWC Hermet. I can’t say for sure what it looked like when new in 1941, but the dial colors just look rich and tasty now.
 
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I define patina on a dial as the changes that naturally occur with age. If taken too far it, simply becomes damage. Lume that ages gracefully from its original near-white Color to a creamy, or toasted almond color Is just spectacular IMHO. ... ]

I agree with this. I like a dial that has aged over time but still looks correct.
I'm not a fan of deep scratches, paint chips, stretched bracelets, etc.

Here is my Speedy 145.022-68 dial.

 
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I am rather fond of my 2639 and its patina.
 
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And the leopard pattern on my 2846 Seamaster dial also makes me happy.
 
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No idea whether you call it patina or “simply ruined” but I like it....
That dial is attractive to me too. It almost looks reptilian, with the combination of guilloche and wabi-sabi.
And I believe the magic words “...I like it” say it all.
 
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Not sure if this counts but my 2531.80 has some fading on the bezel which I refused a new one when it was at omega service in NJ. I think it looks cool, they did however want to change the hands which I didn't have a problem with due to this being a modern piece
 
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This is (was?) a Tissot from the mid-40s, CH27. I briefly owned the same model with the black gloss dial intact. Interestingly, even with the dial gone the radium lume and minute track, which was a separate layer, remain intact. And the dial still has it's glossy effect.

My preference is normally for original condition but this one actually gets more compliments than some of my collection favs.

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Patina describes the influence of time itself on a timekeeping device. There's something wonderfully ironic in that notion. From 1936:
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One of, if not my most patinated watch. I appreciate the character without it coming off as “damaged,” maybe because it’s so even.

 
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“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”

kinda like hunter s thompson... i will chose an honest worn and battle scarred watch, that has history written all over it, nearly every time over a safe queen that has no record of the time it has kept.

some beautiful examples of well used and well loved watches here. congrats to those caretakers.