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  1. Arcticboy Oct 20, 2013

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    I just got hold of this beauty, a cal 320 with 2475 printed inside the back cover. I was not fully aware of this movement, and judging by the serial number I date it to approx. 1944. What surprises me is that it has an Incabloc. Must be among the first ones, yes?
    Well my question though is about the crown as this one has no logo. Is this fit during service or could it be the good old one from the beginning?
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  2. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 20, 2013

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    Waterproof crowns are changed in service to keep the watch waterproof. This model is NOT waterproof and there was no need to change.That one can be original, maybe not (a broken stem or something happened)

    Early crowns did not have logo on them

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  3. Habitant Oct 22, 2013

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    So is it possible to say - roughly - when Omega started to brand all their crowns?
     
  4. Arcticboy Oct 22, 2013

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    I have never seen one without the logo on a watch with Incabloc before, so my impression is that from around 1945 they would fit them all around...
     
  5. Habitant Oct 23, 2013

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    Thanks!
     
  6. John R Smith Oct 23, 2013

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    It's the same problem we have with watch crystals. Just because it has the Omega symbol on it, does not mean that it is the original crown or crystal. These things get changed regularly in service, as Hoi and others have pointed out. So there is no absolute way of establishing the hinge points for style introductions and changes on these items, other than catalogue illustrations and advertisements of the period, which may or may not be accurate and detailed enough to guide the student.
     
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  7. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 23, 2013

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    Maybe because you don't see enough

    Ref 2254, 9.8 mil with incabloc no logo on crown

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    Ref 2400 Suveran with incabloc, no logo on crown

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    28.10 bumper serial 10 mil with incabloc , no logo on crown

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  8. Arcticboy Oct 23, 2013

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    I am flabbergasted! Perhaps you can enlighten us; When did Omega start placing logos on all their watches?
     
  9. ulackfocus Oct 23, 2013

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    That's just Hoi.
     
  10. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 23, 2013

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    I would say sometime between 1947 to 1950. The earliest watch that I have and believe all original with logo on crown has serial number 11,7 mil.



    Note:
    All the legendary 30T2Rg and SC don't have logo on their crowns.
     
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  11. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 23, 2013

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    My Omega Chronometre, Ref. 2517 cal. 352, from 1950 has serial number 11.5M and came with logo on crown. I believe that the Ref. 2500 Centenary has a logo on the crown as well. Most have movement serial numbers in the 10 to 11 million range.

    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/om...ronometer-306325-post2256397.html#post2256397

    Can any of the few Centenary owners in the audience check in please?
    gatorcpa
     
  12. ulackfocus Oct 23, 2013

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    Logo crown on my 2500. :thumbsup: Serial number 10,761,xxx. My old 2500 had the logo crown too.
     
  13. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 23, 2013

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    Sorry Dennis,

    I cannot think without pictures. :D
     
  14. goodcall Oct 23, 2013

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    omega cal.420 serial#125xxxxx (dated to 1950) with 14k gold case-there's no logo on the crown
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  15. Zoheb_ali Dec 14, 2021

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    I just bought this 471 cal
    Case no 2802 6 sc seamaster it does not have a omega logo on crown I am doubtful if its original or aftermarket crown please help me
     
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  16. DON Dec 14, 2021

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    Your crown is not original. To get the right crown. You need the caliber number and case reference number. Also need to buy a new winding stem

    DON
     
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  17. Zoheb_ali Dec 14, 2021

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    Thanks Don like I mentioned cal is 471 and case ref is 2802 6sc please let me where can i buy the stem annd crown
     
  18. jonrob0077 May 25, 2023

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    I don't think my Crown is original. It's a 50,s Omega automatic. It still a beautiful watch
     
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