Did Speedmaster 145.012 have different hand styles or has Omega changed the style of service hands ?

Ron_W · Sep 28, 2023

Hi OF,
did a quick search here and on speedmaster101 but i can find only 1 hand style for the 145.012, thin or slim ones. However, there are now 2 watches listed on C24 with a fatter hour hand, and a much shorter luminova section. Both claimed to be " serviced" and i will take that tto mean by an official watchmaker, but i havent asked yet.

And there is even a 145.012 handset offered from 1969 ! that looked used to me and also has the fatter hour hand.

So your thoughts please, correct ? service hands ? or from a different reference ? or incorrect and all 3 sellers suffer from ignorance or bad sellers virus ?

Thanks !

mountainunder · Sep 28, 2023

Could be the hand of Omega Speedmaster Mark 3 (ref 176.002).

Ron_W · Sep 28, 2023

Thanks, the hour hand looks very similair. Just checking all the Mark`s and the 176.0012 is even closer match with the minute hand is also with a shorter lume section.

M mountainunder
Could be the hand of Omega Speedmaster Mark 3 (ref 176.002).

Ron_W · Sep 28, 2023

The watch listed for € 8750, - states :

Watch in very good condition
Cal. 321 inside. Serial: 26,5XX,XXX
Incl. Omega Service Papers which states Original replaced parts

Maybe Omega ran out of hands ? But even the modern style hands would have fitted better on this watch than those of a mark IV imo.

perenowell · Sep 28, 2023

Incorrect reference service hands on the 145.012s.
And i can add that everything else are service parts except the movement.
They are the perfect examples of what not to buy.

Ron_W · Sep 28, 2023

Thanks, i will report to C24 then.

perenowell
Incorrect reference service hands on the 145.012s.
And i can add that everything else are service parts except the movement.
They are the perfect examples of what not to buy.

Davidt · Sep 28, 2023

These mk4(?) hands are actually seen fairly often on vintage Speedmasters. I assume there was a short period where Speedmaster hands weren’t available, or occasionally no one cared to check that the hands were actually correct.

They are however not correct for any Speedmaster mk1

Ron_W · Sep 29, 2023

Update ;
the parts seller took down his add and thanked me for the info. C24 has "informed" both sellers of the 145.012 and thanked me for helping to keep C24 a safe place . They should have taken that rubbish of the site ........

Laneside · Sep 18, 2024

Hi Ron_W,

Just when I thought there wasn't much more to learn concerning vintage Speedies. Thank you for pointing this issue out. I do confess to not paying too much attention to the hands. I will from now on.

Laneside · Sep 18, 2024

Davidt
These mk4(?) hands are actually seen fairly often on vintage Speedmasters. I assume there was a short period where Speedmaster hands weren’t available, or occasionally no one cared to check that the hands were actually correct.

They are however not correct for any Speedmaster mk1

👍

Laneside · Sep 18, 2024

perenowell
Incorrect reference service hands on the 145.012s.
And i can add that everything else are service parts except the movement.
They are the perfect examples of what not to buy.

👍

Ron_W · Sep 18, 2024

Laneside
more to learn concerning vintage Speedies

and more , and more and more 😀 it is a pretty broad subject for just one watch model !
Please also consult speedmaster101.com and watchfid / watch books only . com as 2 more great reference sites.

Laneside · Sep 18, 2024

Ron_W
and more , and more and more 😀 it is a pretty broad subject for just one watch model !
Please also consult speedmaster101.com and watchfid / watch books only . com as 2 more great reference sites.

Thanks Ron,
I have bought a few watches from William Roberts and have accessed his informative articles and viewed on YouTube. Use Moonwatch Only book regularly that my wife bought for my birthday. I will start using watchfid. Again...... great article.