Did anyone see the 18k Gold Speedy for sale last week ?

Hello Everyone....

a 69 18k gold Speedmaster w maroon bezel... was for sale last week.... It was also for sales back in May of 2021...

We talked about it on Sunday Things With Springs Clubhouse chat we have every sunday.... and we have a thread here on the OF for each meeting... and we can look back and see photos and topics that came up in the room...

here the thread from
May 30th 2021 when we first discussed this Gold speedmaster.... @Dan S posted it to the room....

https://omegaforums.net/threads/things-with-springs-ch-thread-chat-5-30.132303/

and we revisited it yesterday...
https://omegaforums.net/threads/things-with-springs-ch-chat-11-13-22.152558/


But for the OF... I will post sellers pics...

The short form... each Gold Speedy from 69 was uniquely numbered..... the one for sale is marked "851" on the caseback .... I looked at Omega Journey Thru Time.... and they show the caseback of 851 on page 605 ! it is asset number 340 .... but no photo of the face of the watch in the book... I have a old copy of the Omega Museum collection Catalog from like 1999 and list item 340 as follows ...

340. Gold Speedmaster commemorating the 1st Moon landing, 1972: 18 k gold case and burgundy bezel, the exact replica of the OMEGA Speedmaster Professional worn by the American Apollo 11 astronauts on July 21, 1969, the first watch worn on the Moon. Back engraved "OMEGA Speedmaster - Apollo XI 1969 - The first watch worn on the moon - No 851". Gold on leather model. (BA 145.022)

Also notice the watch at the museum is described as " gold on leather model" ...


I just have questions about the watch that was offered for sale..... ( since i posted this on IG yesterday before the clubhouse chat, seller removed the "sold" watch from the site.


upper right hand corner of page 605 ... of JTT and 851 is the upper right hand corner photo .


back of the watch that was for sale ....



close up of the back ...


look like there was another engraving that was removed.

Just more questions...

Does anyone have any additional thoughts?

Good Hunting
Bill Sohne
@Foo2rama , @Dan S , @Spacefruit

The Caseback on the watch sold by Hodinkee is not the same case back as the one pictured in the book.

@Spacefruit would you buy this example why or why not ?

what conclusion can one draw ?

Hi agree

just look at the shape of the Greek Omega letter weight and serif are different. .

Sp what do we have here ? Anyone ?

bill

Gold is a very very soft metal, so couldn't it be an unwanted mark of a bad use or bad service?

Don't think so. It looks like an 8

It’s interesting that the sold listing was removed from the site, I wonder if that means Hodinkee cancelled the sale or if it was just removed in order to prevent controversy about the sale. I’d imagine it has to be the former as they’re pretty careful with their reputation.

I’m a a bit lost here. What’s the question - whether the Hodinkee watch no 851 is the same as a previous example numbered 851 or whether there are irregularities?

Thanks @Dan S. I’ve reread the thread and it’s bloody obvious! Must’ve been having a moment.

Has anyone seen a confirmed service caseback for these gold -69’s? Every other caseback I can find has the standard late 60’s Omega logo. Makes you wonder whether it’s a service caseback of even been polished smooth and re-engraved.

Hard to be sure from the Hodinkee pictures but the bezel on the Hodinkee watch doesn’t appear to be the same as the one on the MWO example either.

Edit: in fact the dial isn’t the same either. Hodinkee has oval O, while MWO have round O.

It was listed at 49k usd.

Hello everyone.....

we have an update on the watch in question...

https://omegaforums.net/threads/things-with-springs-ch-chat-11-20-22.152810/#post-2081748