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Dial repaint/restore specialist recommendations in North America

  1. rennfahrer Jul 13, 2015

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    Hello all:

    I have this Seamaster 3577 cal 354 which has a really, really bad redial job - but underneath is a nice waffle dial. image.jpg

    I am currently overhauling the movement and I would love to have a decent dial for the watch.

    Any recommendations for dial painting/restoration in the U.S./Canada who has a track record with Omegas? I have seen posts with International Dial, Kirk Dial, Dial Craft... I am not looking to spend $500 on a repainted dial, but I would spend $150 +/- for a nice job - I think it would be better than casting aside a waffle dial.

    Thoughts/suggestions/input?

    Thanks!
    Patrick
     
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  2. watchlovr Jul 13, 2015

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    If you must, then Jack at IWW
     
  3. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 13, 2015

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    He's good at reluming but don't think he does dial repainting/refinishing. Omega dial refinishing is tricky and in all this time have yet to find anyone capable of doing an acceptable job consistently. The textured dials are tougher to work on - better to wait and try to purchase a donor textured dial on ebay.
     
  4. rennfahrer Jul 13, 2015

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    Thanks. At least the dial has all the hardware. If anyone knows of a cal 354 dial, let me know. It doesn't have to be textured.
     
  5. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jul 14, 2015

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    Are you looking for a good 354 dial or a donor dial to be restored? I think the case reference should be 2577 not 3577 ;)
     
  6. rennfahrer Jul 14, 2015

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    @Giff2577 of course, of course I meant 2577. Lack of proofreading on my part.

    Well I would love to get a decent or nice original dial for the cal 354 considering the advise above that restoring a textured dial may prove difficult.

    Do you have a dial for a 2577? I would love to see it :)
     
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  7. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jul 14, 2015

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    It's too bad your textured dial is redone. I'm a big fan of textured dialed bumpers. If I get a chance I'll sort through my dials to see if I have any decent ones that will fit a 354. No promises but I'll look.
     
  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jul 14, 2015

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    Any dial that would fit any of the cal. 35X movements, would fit a cal. 354. However, unless the dial is known to come from a Ref. 2577 case (those came with cals. 351, 352 or 354), it may not fit both the movement and case.

    Good luck with your search.
    gatorcpa
     
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  9. rennfahrer Jul 14, 2015

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    Thanks @Giff2577 i would appreciate it very much!
     
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  10. rennfahrer Jul 14, 2015

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    Thanks @gatorcpa it is definitely a ref. 2577 case. This is my first watch I have serviced myself so I would love to commemorate it with a fine dial.
     
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  11. base615 Jul 14, 2015

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    Kirk Rich is good
     
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  12. noelekal Home For Wayward Watches Jul 14, 2015

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    Can Kirk Rich do a reasonable job on 1957 Constellation pie pans and position the cross hairs properly?
     
  13. rennfahrer Jul 14, 2015

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    Thanks @base615 I think I am going to try reaching out to them.
     
  14. base615 Jul 15, 2015

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    I was happy with mine. It was in a really atrocious state when it went off for redial and came back looking decent. It's certainly not perfect (serifs missing etc) but a redial never will be and it's certainly better than the work I've seen from others. I had no crosshairs so I can't talk to that.

    Be sure to correctly brief them as they will do exactly what you ask for, even if it's incorrect for the watch. Mine had very little script remaining with the damage so I used an example photo for them to copy. The problem was I used one with a 'T' for tritium next to the 'Swiss Made' and of course my watch has no tritium. It doesn't bother me too much, I'm not trying to pass it off as an original dial.

    Here's a closeup, at normal size it'd be difficult to tell the difference.

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    I'd still always recommend not doing a redial if you can get away with it. If your dial is just patinated or you can find an original replacement, I wouldn't do it. Mine was badly damaged and unfortunately Pie Pan dials are like rocking horse poo so I had no choice. It's the only dial I've had done.
     
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  15. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 15, 2015

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    Why not keep the dial as is until you can locate a nice original dial to use in its place? Not sure a redial is going to make it look much nicer and as I've mentioned before even the refinishers who charge $500 don't do an accurate job of it.
     
  16. wsfarrell Jul 15, 2015

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    Nice job. Many of these I've seen suffer from weak printing---as though this was the 5th dial they stamped on the same ink charge. Not this one.
     
  17. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 15, 2015

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    If the goal is fidelity to the original then the darker, heavier printing job is the biggest problem. This is usually the easiest and most obvious tell that distinguishes a redial from an original one. Perhaps the "weak printing" you are describing is an attempt to more closely mimic the original printing.
     
  18. wsfarrell Jul 15, 2015

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    Could be, good point.
     
  19. noelekal Home For Wayward Watches Jul 15, 2015

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    My first Constellation suffers from a poor redial anyway so anything would be an improvement to the "offense to the eye" that it is currently. Funny how it seemed fine back when I got it from some murky South American Ebay auction back in the late 1990s. Only later did I wise up.
     
  20. fskywalker Apr 1, 2019

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    Kirk dials does great work; understand they do some work for some Omega service centers in the USA