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  1. John R Smith Nov 12, 2013

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    Greetings from Cornwall.

    Today's conundrum - can anyone identify this dial and which Omega model it might belong to?

    (Seller's Photograph)

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    Thanks in advance for your input :thumbsup:
     
  2. ulackfocus Nov 12, 2013

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    That crown might be the best clue. That might have come out of a front loading case from the early to mid 60's. There were a few US case references, and the 166.020 was one Swiss case reference I remember.
     
  3. John R Smith Nov 12, 2013

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    Thanks for that, Dennis. Yes, that 166.020 ref is the right style, but all of those refs are automatics and calendar watches. This one is odd, because it is late (see the Omega logo) but manual wind (no automatic script) and with no date window.
     
  4. ulackfocus Nov 12, 2013

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    I had a manual wind DeVille (60x series) inside a front loader a while back. It was early 60's though.

    What's the serial number on the caliber?
     
  5. John R Smith Nov 12, 2013

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    The movement is a cal 284 # 16054311, but it does not belong with the dial . . .
     
  6. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Nov 12, 2013

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    Is it possible this is a later service dial?
     
  7. John R Smith Nov 12, 2013

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    Very possible. I will have to investigate some more and try to get more details from the seller. Did Omega use later style generic dials as replacements for dials on older models? The dial seems completely genuine, not a fake or a repaint.
     
  8. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Nov 12, 2013

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    So many Omegas from this period were not model specific, Seamaster etc., that pinpointing exactly what this is from is nearly impossible.

    Quite likely something like this, ref 14391 (sub seconds) but I'm sure there is a center seconds reference of this case.

    That crown style was used on many cases.

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  9. Tritium Nov 13, 2013

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    Not sure if this answer your question but take a look at this service replacement dial for the semaster date @ 6 compared with the original. While IMO it´s still beautiful, you can see many differences with an original one: Flat omega logo, different "S" on Seamaster, Hour markers, and sunburst finish.
    la foto 1.JPG la foto 2.JPG
     
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  10. goodcall Nov 13, 2013

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    doesn't look similar?
    040.jpg
    different crown though.
    there's a cal.420 with serial number of 12xxxxxxx
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  11. John R Smith Nov 13, 2013

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    Yes, similar but not quite the same hour markers. I am leaning towards a service dial now - Tritium's example is dead-on for style. There is the starburst dial finish, the square-cut applied hour markers and the overall look of the text and the 'Swiss Made'. As soon as I can I will post more pix and explain what this is all about.
     
  12. John R Smith Nov 14, 2013

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    I think I have managed to track this one down. It looks like it is a genuine Omega service dial from the 1960s, and intended to fit the manual wind 28x series movements in the larger size (35.5mm) steel cases, such as the 2938 and 14390. Strangely, these are both Seamaster references, but the dial itself has no Seamaster script. Here is an example in a 14390 -

    Seamaster 14390-1 web.jpg

    And another 14390 -

    Seamaster 14390-2.jpg

    That was with just a little Internet searching, so the dial was obviously quite a common service item at some point.
     
  13. John R Smith Nov 14, 2013

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    Hmmm. Not as common as you thought, John. The above examples turn out, on further investigation, to be the same watch (the leaf hands should have been the giveaway). Sold by an Australian trader in September 2013 for $x, it then turns up in the UK in November for sale on another trader's site at almost four times the price. To be fair, it has been serviced . . . ;)