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  1. Krabong Nov 1, 2017

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    Fantasy or legit, that's my question to you gentleman...?!

    With kind regards, Roel
     
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  2. davidswiss Nov 1, 2017

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    Well the movement number puts it about 1945/6 I think and Dennison did supply 13322 cases for Air Ministry watches but that engraving looks very crisp for a watch that's over 70 years old.
    The military watch forum is the place to settle this I think.
    http://www.mwrforum.net/
     
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  3. Krabong Nov 2, 2017

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    Thank you for your reply. I don't have a account there.

    With kind, regards Roel
     
  4. COYI Nov 2, 2017

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    It's not a 6B/159 as the originals have a centre seconds movement/dial - 30T2SC
     
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  5. Gstp Nov 2, 2017

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    Fake
     
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  6. davidswiss Nov 2, 2017

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    I don't think joining up is a problem, no marching is involved.
     
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  7. COYI Nov 2, 2017

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    Are there any numbers on the underside of the lugs?
     
  8. Krabong Nov 2, 2017

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    Yes
     
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  9. COYI Nov 2, 2017

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    On a Dennison case the serial numbers on the underside of the lugs should match the last three digits of the serial number on the inside of the caseback.

    I don't think it is a military watch so the engraving on the caseback is likely to be fake. So we have a civilian Omega dial/movement in a Dennision case. It may have been like this originally as I think Omega sold movements without cases during this period. Without doing any research I would also say that the dial has been refinished.
     
  10. François Pépin Nov 2, 2017

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    The dial looks original to me - maybe relumed, hard to tell with this pic.
    Apart from the engraving - I do not know military watches and will thus let the experts talk - everything seems OK to me. But if the engraving is fake, to me it ruins the value of the watch...
     
  11. Krabong Nov 2, 2017

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    Indeed! And not only the value, also the fun.
    I don't buy this one. Thank you for helping me.

    With regards, Roel
     
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  12. momosono Nov 2, 2017

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    So if I understand you correctly the caseback does not belong on this case since it has 336 and the numbers under the lugs are 335.
     
  13. COYI Nov 2, 2017

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    I couldn't quite make out the numbers on the case but it should be 336 if the caseback belongs to this case
     
  14. Krabong Nov 2, 2017

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    I don't have better pictures, sorry!

    Grtz, Roel
     
  15. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Nov 2, 2017

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    Engraving is a complete fake, too bad that was nice civilian watch, but as a so called "military" it's a complete fake.

    The 6B /159 Air Ministry watches from WWII have
    -a 30T2SC movement, where "SC" stands for "Seconde Centrale" (center seconds),
    -no shock protection (contrary to this one);
    - no lume on the dial (unlike this one)
    -beautiful blued steel hands (unlike this one);
    - characteristically long lugs (unlike this one).

    This is a correct example, sold on the forum some years ago:
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...orldwar-ii-pilot-watch-30t2-sc-movement.4707/
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  16. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Nov 2, 2017

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    Actually no, oops sorry --the seconds hand is an incorrect replacement on the example above as the "tail" is way too long.
    This one, posted by a guy named Carlos on Pinterest, is the correct seconds hand, and correct crown too(but wrongly identified as cold war era :rolleyes:)
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  17. COYI Nov 2, 2017

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    Yes, not easy to find one that's totally correct. Even the second one has a redone MOD dial
     
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  18. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Nov 2, 2017

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    You're right. Here's a very nice correct one, credit @CdnWatchDoc
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  19. CdnWatchDoc Nov 3, 2017

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    The picture above is of a civilian version of the watch; at the end of the war, several dozens or hundreds (no numbers were kept) were sold to the public. This is likely a aluminum case, without engravings. The caseback # is 2292, as seen below. I think I have a movement pic somewhere; will need to search!
    The OP engraving looks to be laser made, way post-WWII tech...
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  20. COYI Nov 3, 2017

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    I thought Omega sold all the 2292 cased watches to the MOD? Are you saying the MOD then sold the watches after WW2 to civilians?

    There are many 6b/159 watches out there that have the military engravings removed/polished out.