correct lume aging on dial and hands -

mr.kaplan

The second one has service hands (and insert), as stated in the Chrono24 listing "the watch was serviced by Rolex in 2020 at which point the hands were replaced and the bracelet is also a later service replacement.".

Dan S

I recommend first hand experience handling watches, and inspecting them with a loupe and UV lamp from all angles and in different lighting, as opposed to a book. Pictures and descriptions will never substitute. If you really want to learn, you need to figure out how to get your hands on actual watches. Posting questions to the forum will not get you very far.

mr.kaplan

First one is ok, also a quite nice example.

In 4 digits reference hands usually matches indexes, in 5 digits you may find lighter hands as Rolex in the 90's had different suppliers for hands and dials; I would say lighter hands in 70% of the cases in 5 dig

Dan S

I recommend first hand experience handling watches, and inspecting them with a loupe and UV lamp from all angles and in different lighting, as opposed to a book. Pictures and descriptions will never substitute. If you really want to learn, you need to figure out how to get your hands on actual watches. Posting questions to the forum will not get you very far.

vonrozen

God bless Rolex.

Dan S

I agree with this. But saying that 70% of 5-digit references have lighter hands doesn't really help you determine whether a particular example has original hands. I'm certain that when @mr.kaplan inspects a Rolex in-person with a loupe, he learns a great deal from the specific color and texture and UV-response of hands and dial.

I truly believe that the OP will never make progress without handling watches in-person. He claims that art experts use books to develop their expertise, but personally I doubt it. If he doesn't want to buy a watch, there are various other ways to accomplish this, including networking with other enthusiasts in-person, finding a mentor, visiting dealers and retail store-fronts, etc. He is falsely characterizing suggestions/advice from me, @Davidt, and others as attacks, playing the victim card. What I am seeing is a common theme on OF, where members eventually become frustrated by repeated requests for spoon-feeding from a member who is unwilling to make a real effort to learn. I have been following the OP's repeated threads for almost a year now, where he continues to ask the same vague and naive questions about various Rolex references. He claims to have experience in the art auction world, so it strains credulity to believe that these questions are sincere. The same questions have been asked and answered dozens of times on this forum and others, and the vintage Rolex models he is referencing have dedicated reference websites that he can study if he is interested. Two minutes of googling will identify these sites.