Forums Latest Auctions Members
  1. scotty

    scotty Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    240
    Likes
    79
    Hey guys, does this dial go with the case and cal 504? When I check the Omega database I would say that the dial does not go with the case but.... Is the dial vintage as well?

    Dial.jpg

    Cal 504.jpg

    Case Back.jpg
     
  2. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    14,407
    Likes
    20,966
    Yes it does, The images on the Omega data base only represent one possible dial for watches, not necessarily all of the dials used for a particular model. Model reference numbers would often have dozens of different dial configurations. The reference refers to the case and movement , not the dial in most cases. Of course there were some watches that only came with one dial. This dial may have been refinished (it appears so). It also appears to be missing the crystal retaining ring.
     
  3. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    7,494
    Likes
    13,945
    I think it may actually be a service replacement dial.
     
  4. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    14,407
    Likes
    20,966
    Good point , does look like one.
     
  5. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    26,179
    Likes
    26,548
    Yep, my thoughts exactly.
     
  6. John R Smith

    John R Smith Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    1,319
    Likes
    688
    So come on guys - what is the give-away? Inquiring minds want to know . . . ;)
     
  7. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    26,179
    Likes
    26,548
    Sunburst finish didn't come til later for one I think.
     
  8. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    9,227
    Likes
    8,695
    Most collectors believe that the tell is that the dial doesn't say "Constellation Calendar" at the bottom. One one model of dial could possibly fit this watch, since it was discontinued after only one year and replaced with the 2nd generation Constellation (cal. 561). Watchco Australia has been selling NOS Omega service dials for years.

    After reading this post, now I'm not so sure:

    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/constellation-cal-504-question-602082.html

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WORKING-OMEGA-AUTOMATIC-CONSTELLATION-DATE-WATCH-cal-504-/180740325058

    As with most things vintage Omega, the only rule is that there is always an exception to the rule.
    gatorcpa
     
  9. John R Smith

    John R Smith Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    1,319
    Likes
    688
    Thanks, fellers. As usual my flabber is gasted :thumbsup:

    I would just have thought that the dial looked fine . . .
     
  10. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    7,494
    Likes
    13,945
    NT931 likes this.
  11. scotty

    scotty Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    240
    Likes
    79
    You can see why I was questioning the dial and the rest of the watch. If it had "CALENDAR" under the Constellation it would have looked right to me. With how clean the dial is, you would expect a service replacement dial. As far as I can tell, everything else looks right. Being a rose gold Constellation, it is quite nice.
     
  12. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    2,538
    Likes
    2,763
    The hands look round domed dauphine hands, not facetted.
     
  13. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    9,227
    Likes
    8,695
    There are some other small issues that I overlooked.
    • The case looks like a melted ice cube. Too much of the (as Dennis would say) "Oooh, shiny" factor.
    • The crown is from a contemporary Seamaster, not a Constellation.
    • The hands may or may not be correct.
    All of the above are correctible and would not deter me from purchasing the watch if the price was right.

    Unfortunately, it rarely is,
    gatorcpa
     
  14. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Oct 2, 2013

    Posts
    2,538
    Likes
    2,763
    The chevrons of the M in ChronoMeter don't go straight down like other M's of the 50X family. It's the font of later model 168005

    [​IMG]