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Constellation cal 562 -are there any out there?

  1. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 15, 2015

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    I saw this effort on Ebay and it got me to thinking

    I seem to recall that Desmond's site shows that there is evidence to suggest that some 562s may have been chronometer rated and used in Connies
    -but that there was some doubt

    Do any of our myriad of Connies collectors have a Connie with a chronometer rated 562?
    (if there is such a thing -it must surely be found on OF)
    -and one they are willing to put up for scrutiny of course....

    here is one which has no 'adjusted' text and therefore should be in no doubt -would have been a nice Seamaster movement once upon a time -but surely not for a Constellation
    (unless you know better...)

    $1249 -Zurich

    nice visage but seriously dodgy innards
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/OMEGA-Const...727937?hash=item1c5a19da01:g:oEQAAOSwsB9WBnrw
     
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  2. BartH

    BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Nov 15, 2015

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    Yeah, besides the lacking adjustement text, the gold plating looks inconsistent.
     
  3. al128

    al128 unsolicited co-moderation giverer Nov 15, 2015

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    inconsistent ... as in "cooked up in a meth-lab in rural AZ" ;-)
     
  4. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Nov 15, 2015

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    You are correct. However, I have yet to see Omega confirm one as genuine. Bear in mind that Omega is extremely reluctant to say anything in recent years regarding authenticity on any watch.

    IMO, given the ease that a cal. 562 could be substituted for a cal 561 by a collector, I would be skeptical of any such piece.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
  5. BartH

    BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Nov 15, 2015

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    Albuquerque ;)
     
  6. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 16, 2015

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    So no-one has a 562 (Connie) to show?
     
    Edited Nov 16, 2015
  7. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Nov 16, 2015

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    Frankly, I think they are like unicorns.

    Mythical.
    gatorcpa
     
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  8. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 16, 2015

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    You forget about the secret work on miniature horses being carried out by Dennis at the Omega Fischenthal laboratories.....
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  9. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz Nov 27, 2017

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    What do you think of this one? It should be a cal 561 for a 168.004 but according to some info on the web the 562 was also used for the constellation. Is the watch legit?
     
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  10. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz Nov 27, 2017

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    Info from desmond about the 562:
     
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  11. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Nov 27, 2017

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    Wrong movement, should be cal 561, this 562 does not appear to have an adjusted bridge, making it highly suspect.
     
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  12. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz Nov 27, 2017

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    I agree...:)
     
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  13. 1jansen

    1jansen Nov 27, 2017

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    Even if
    Copied above respectful members' and Desmond's comments.
    Even if the upper bridge for automatic device is a 5 positions adjusted one (with additional jewels on it as well), it is also doubtful. Though they are of different part no., they are interchangeable. (see below). A watchmaker can just change an adjusted bridge to a Cal.562 with little effort. A Cal.562 with an adjusted bridge, doesn't means it is legitimate unless endorsed by Omega authority, that is very unlikely.

    A non-conclusive summary is it is highly unlikely (or suspicious) a Constellation be powered by Cal.562. IMO
    Cheers,

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  14. 1jansen

    1jansen Nov 27, 2017

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    EDIT: ....additional jewels are not on the adjusted bridge. It is inside the automatic rotor mechanism underneath it.
     
  15. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 28, 2017

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    Based on the fact that we (almost certainly) have the greatest combined collection of Connies on the planet in this forum and I posted my original thread two years ago - and no-one offered up a genuine 562 Connie....
    So I think it’s fair to say that if they do exist they are few and far between.
    So any 562 Connie that comes up for sale claiming to be correct should be treated with a health dose of skepticism.
    And if it were a correct later Connie it should have adjusted 5 positions on the bridge or it wouldn’t be chronometer rated.
     
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  16. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz Nov 28, 2017

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  17. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 28, 2017

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    I think we’ve all read Desmond’s blog but in 2 years still no-one has presented what they believe to be a genuine 562 Connie.
    But there always hope....if there’s one out there it will surely make it way to OF eventually.