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  1. Selbo Aug 6, 2015

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    I'm considering a 168.005 pie pan for purchase but all I have I have to review are pictures from the seller. I would prefer one with onyx versus black paint markers. I can't really tell from the pictures. Is there a certain rule of thumb to follow? I know the 561 models are usually onyx but what about the 564? To my knowledge later serial numbers usually means black paint. The one I'm looking at is a 242XXXXXX. Is there a definitive way to tell from pictures or do I need a loupe? Will the serial number give me my answer? Sorry, can't access the pictures right now but I can post later if it will help in the determination. Thanks.
     
  2. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 6, 2015

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    I'd weight condition more than black paint vs onyx markers, its hard to find sharp cases in these dogleg references so trying to find a nice dial and case together isn't easy.
     
  3. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 6, 2015

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    It's easy to tell if the picture is honest and taken at a right angle
     
  4. Selbo Aug 6, 2015

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    Not sure if this is the angle that will work, but here is the photo I have to offer. Dial is not flawless but the case looks to be in good shape. I think this is going to look pretty decent "in the flesh". Can anyone determine if the markers are onyx or black paint? Sorry, I know it's not much to go on.

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  5. Canuck Aug 6, 2015

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    Onyx? I very much doubt it! Any I have seen have been paint.
     
  6. styggpyggeno1 ΩF Enforcer ....and thread killer Aug 7, 2015

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    I would buy it for the case alone. Looks very good.
     
  7. TNTwatch Aug 7, 2015

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    Onyx on all markers. Some dials have onyx only on 3 or 4 main ones and the rest painted.

    The dial has been damaged though with the bump at the 47 minute mark. I've seen it on more than one.
     
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  8. Selbo Aug 7, 2015

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    I was hoping this was a smudge on the crystal but I trust your knowledge and experience over mine. Based on some comments around the house, I have a sneaking suspicion that this watch will be "borrowed" by the wife. A little dial issue will not bother her one bit as long as the watch goes well with her nails, shoes, handbag, etc. Price is right so I think it's a go. Thanks for the feedback.
     
  9. JohnSteed Aug 7, 2015

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    Expect to see a wrist pic soon :D
     
  10. Selbo Aug 7, 2015

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    Sure, I'll see if my wife can sit still for a few minutes while I take the pic...
     
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  11. Sherbie Aug 7, 2015

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    You need to see the dial at an angle. The onyx markers are clearly square, and have depth. Paint, as implied, doesnt have this depth.

    I have this ref in 18k rose gold - definitely onyx, as are my SS and gold capped versions
     
  12. Sherbie Aug 7, 2015

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    bTW the picture you have is not ideal, but i think these are solid onyx battons - if you enlarge the photo, look at the markers at 12 o'c. I think you can see that they are a 3 dimensional batton, vs a thin layer of paint
     
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  13. Willem023 Aug 7, 2015

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    the 10, 7 and 2 hour markers seem 3 dimensional when you enlarge the pic considerably. The '9' seems empty/paint? Bit curious on the second 'o' on Chronometer though; seems a bit leaning too much to the left. More pics (also of the movement) would do the trick
     
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  14. mactab Aug 7, 2015

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    MOY test looks a little off on the Y?
    I defer to the more knowledgeable of course
     
  15. blubarb Aug 7, 2015

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    good catch.