Considering this 145.022-74 as my first Speedmaster...

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Hi all,

I'm looking to purchase my first Speedmaster and have been doing a lot of research recently trying to figure out the best way to go given all of the various references and the nuances of each. Ideally I'd love something with good character/history, but that still runs well as a near-daily wear. My budget is not huge, around $3k, which prices me out of the 321 calibers and seems to put me in the 145.022 spectrum. My other alternative is to get a near minty modern reference with the 1861 cal and put my own wear and tear on it (these seem to be plentiful at the $3K price point). Both options seem to have their pros and cons, but I think if I can find something with a nice bit of history that would be ideal.

The other day I came across this 145.022-74 on Chrono24, and it struck me as possibly "the one":

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-145022-74-s-e-r-lunga--id5394772.htm

As far as I can tell it looks to have the correct dial with a nice creamy fade to the lume, doesn't seem to be overpolished, etc., but to my dismay the bezel seems to be incorrect according to the article below, as it is missing the serifs on the 70/75.

http://speedmaster101.com/base500-bezel-identification/

That being said, with just a few articles worth of knowledge under my belt I am far from an expert, and I thought I'd pose the question to you guys - what do you think?

I have an email inquiry out to the dealer to ask about any known service dates/how the watch is running, and am waiting for his response. At $2900 I believe I should be getting pretty close to an all original 145.022-74, but maybe this is still an OK deal. Does the later bezel matter all that much (if it is in fact "incorrect"), and if so could I replace it later on down the line?

Also, I realize that this does not come with a bracelet, but I'm OK with that because I actually really like the leather strap it's on and there doesn't seem to be any shortage of period-correct bracelets on eBay to complete the package once my wife gets over the fact that I just spent the equivalent of a mortgage payment on something I'll be wearing on my wrist 馃槈

Anyways, that's my long what-am-I-to-do? post. Thanks so much for all of your help, I've really learned a lot combing through these forums, and am excited to continue my Omega education!
 
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Chrono24 watch has the wrong dial and wrong bezel, don't recommend it
 
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How can i know it has the wrong dial?
What should I look for?
 
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Hi OP,

As I understand it a couple of relatively easy things to look for on an original -74 are seriphs on the bezel 7s (edit: which you correctly spotted) and the mid-sized S in Speedmaster (not as tall as that which immediately followed - like the one you linked to - but not as squat as the most recent version). Pics from my -74 below.

@abrod520, please jump back in here and correct me if I'm inadvertently saying something stoopid!

 
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Thanks @abrod520 and @WurstEver, I caught the bezel but the dial slipped by me. I guess the search continues...

On a side note, does anyone know anything about that strap? I kind of like it and might look for something similar to switch it up from a bracelet at some point. Of course, still have to find the watch first...
 
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@abrod520, please jump back in here and correct me if I'm inadvertently saying something stoopid

Nope, you're 100% correct there Chris 馃榾

does anyone know anything about that strap?

You could try Bulang & Sons, their style is fairly similar.
 
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Alway have to question when seller photos focus more on the strap than the watch.
 
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@banner gunner but it is a nice strap! But yeah, in all seriousness that had me skeptical as well. Was hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

@abrod520 thanks, I'll check them out.
 
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Easy a 74 should have the short S that does not drop down to the bottom of the P. The R should have a drop on the tail. It's unique in domed dials only on 74 and some 76's. A 74 could have a step dial. Basically they have the step dial font on Speedmaster on a domed dial. The picture is my 76 with the early 76 -74 dial. Sourced from @abrod520 actually. The bezel looks great in person that's just a high contrast shot...

The linked watch presents well but the 76 and later dial and wrong Bezel hurts value. The 74 dial has potential to become collectible as it's a rare dial variation. Personally a 74 without it is worthless. I've got a feeling it was serviced in the 80's and acquired that dial and bezel.
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I have not seen a 74 with a step dial but agree with everything else from @Foo2rama
Here is a 71 and 74 side by side. Only difference the step dial.
 
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A 74 could have a step dial.

Huh, I did not know this! I don't remember ever having seen a 74 with a step dial.
 
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145.022 -74

Interesting! So Speedmaster101 has the following to say on the topic of stepped dials on 74s ...



It strikes me as unusual in the watch game - particularly when it comes to vintage Speedmasters - to have such ambiguity around such a relatively major difference. "General feeling"? Do watch collectors even have feelings? 馃槈
 
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I was a bit guarded in my response when I stated " a -74 could have a stepped dial"

The stepped dial -74 is a little up in the air, there are some examples on the forum, and logic would dictate that an earlier dial would not be placed on a -74 at a later date with no 76's showing up with a step. If step dials where retroactively applied to -74 you would assume an almost equal number of -76 would also have this modification. I am no where as big of an expert on these as many of the people on this forum are, but I would accept a -74 with the stepped dial the same way I would take a -76 with the shorter "S" in Speedmaster. It just makes little sense that both of these variations show up in small numbers but are not found in later references. IE no 76 with a step, or a 78 with the earlier Logo. Logic dictates that they are carry over from the previous reference.
 
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I'd say -74s with stepped dials are like 145.012s with flat end chrono hands. Supposedly they could have been produced as such, but are so rarely seen and impossible to verify that I would rather stick with what's known to be correct.
 
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Isn't a step dial preferable? I wouldn't say no to one!
 
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I thought it was the preferred dial to but if it's not original than maybe not.
 
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I think it is preferred if it is original, but the consensus is that a step dial may or may not be original to a 74. Doesn't mean it couldn't be original, just that it would be hard to verify. That's my understanding anyways...
 
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It could exist but they are rare if they do. Don't hold your breath for a -74 step.