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  1. Dr.Sascha Aug 5, 2014

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    With full understanding that we're on Omega turf here, I wanted to hear folks' opinions of the comparative merits, in terms of investment value, aesthetic appeal, and, most importantly, quality of movement of an early-60s Constellation pie-pan 561 or 565 vs. a 1950s Longines Conquest 206 cal. They're in about the same price range. I know, for example, that the 206 movements were all produced _entirely_ in-house by Longines--was this also true of the 561/565s? I'm told that Longines from this period are currently undervalued, but who knows if their value will really increase markedly, while a classic Connie seems always a wise choice by definition! I won't bother posting a pie-pan image, as you are all familiar with how lovely they are, but here's a nice example of a near-mint Longines 1958 206, ss (I'm not contemplating this one specifically, this is a long-term goal).

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    Thoughts?
     
  2. cristos71 Aug 5, 2014

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    I think you mean 561/4, 565 is not a chronometer.
     
  3. Dr.Sascha Aug 5, 2014

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    My bad, chronometer movements are only 560-4 inclusive, correct? Thanks for pointing that out.
     
  4. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 5, 2014

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    Nope, 562's are used in non-chronometer Seamasters as are 563s and 560s
     
  5. Dr.Sascha Aug 5, 2014

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    Every day an education. 551, on the other hand, is a chronometer movement, no?
     
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  7. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 5, 2014

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    True but the 561/564s are the typical chronometers you'll find in a connie of that era with calendar
     
  8. ulackfocus Aug 5, 2014

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    What's a 206? Never heard of it.

    However, if you were talking about the 290 series - which is the caliber shown in your picture and the movement used by Longines in Conquest automatics from late 1958 through 1967 - I would choose a 29x in an 18k case with an 18k dial. IMO, the 291 is a better engineered and more durable movement than the 561.
     
  9. ulackfocus Aug 5, 2014

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    551 = chronometer, no date window
    561 = chronometer, date window
    564 = chronometer, date window with quickset (pull and push the crown to advance the date one number)
     
  10. Dr.Sascha Aug 5, 2014

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    There's that dyslexia popping up again! Thank you for the expert advice, and for the breakdown of the Connie Chrono movements.
     
  11. Patrick Dixon How do these messages get here? Aug 6, 2014

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    Damn, posted on the wrong version of the duplicate thread ...