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Connie 2852 cross hair arrow head

  1. nanjingcigaretes Ω 2

    nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Mar 27, 2020

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    Hi Omega Friends,
    This one just poped up to me, I am about to pull the trigger but want to seeking for your opinion first.
    This is a Connie 2852 with cal 505, serial 15mils
    What I am concern is about the dial originality ( seller claimed it is)
    It looks perfect under my untrained eyes, but the fact that the dial is in such a good condition kinda scare me a bit. I owned 1 like this b4, but this dial is another level compare to mine.
    So seeking for your thoughts, thank you OF.
    Apologize for my bad english.
    Stephen
     
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  2. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Mar 27, 2020

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    I can’t tell if the dial is original because the picture is out of focus. The only way to tell on some of these is to see it in person.

    The crown is from a Seamaster, but you may be able to replace it with a correct 10-sided version.

    Good luck,
    gatorcpa
     
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  3. nanjingcigaretes Ω 2

    nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Mar 27, 2020

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    Yes my previous actually has 10 facet crown. Here are some more photos from the seller.
     
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  4. Passover

    Passover Mar 27, 2020

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    Dial looks legit IMO:

    MOY as expected for that reference, different Ms in "Automatic" and "Chronometer", Star, crosshair I can't see any red flags...
     
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  5. Noddyman

    Noddyman Mar 27, 2020

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    I am with @gatorcpa on this one. Nothing immediately stands out but the dial is almost too clean for my liking. I would want clearer pics or better still see in person if possible.
     
  6. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Mar 27, 2020

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    Second set of pictures are better. The fonts and placement of printing look correct.

    The surface of the dial seems to be somewhat granular.

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    It could be that someone cleaned the dial and took off the original lacquer.

    This is a tough call.
    gatorcpa
     
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  7. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Mar 27, 2020

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    There are some bubbling on the dial too. IMO definitely a cleaned dial.
     
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  8. Gui13250

    Gui13250 Mar 27, 2020

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    CC5B84C2-0721-4986-BAFE-CAD60F464D29.png Looking at the kind of « brush » between arrows markers, would say at least heavily cleaned... would need better pictures of the font
     
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  9. KingCrouchy

    KingCrouchy Mar 27, 2020

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    The dial looks cleaned to me, but would need better Pictures of the dial to be 100% sure.
     
  10. nanjingcigaretes Ω 2

    nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Mar 27, 2020

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    So a cleaned dial is consider original or redial, would it effect the collectinf value of the watch?
     
  11. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Mar 27, 2020

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    If that is all, then it is considered an original dial, but cleaned.

    To most collectors, not the same as truly original and should be priced less.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
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  12. new_heuer

    new_heuer Mar 28, 2020

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    The bent top left lug would be enough for me to walk away even if the dial is original
     
  13. harrymai86

    harrymai86 Mar 28, 2020

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    Case looks quite soft. I saw it on facebook and it was sold to someone quite fast, maybe it has some problems but price was quite good