CLeaning out my parents house

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My parents both in their 80’s are downsizing. So I’m going through all their stuff What to keep, donate and trash. Came across this empty box. My parents have pretty much kept everything (this is the worst room) and my mom did say there are some old watches in box from her dad in one of the rooms. I’ll update if I find any thing else.
As a side note my dad has dementia and I’ve taken over as power of attorney (POA) since October. I’ll throw in the wish I would have done this earlier like 2-3 years ago. For both sides on this forum that will need a POA or will be the person taking care of their family member in the future start talking about it now. I try to tell all my friends that yes it sucks but it beats the headaches, sleepless nights, anxiety of trying to play catch up.

 
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Echo 100% about getting your POAs in order pronto. I just did mine a few weeks ago after my eldest sister spent unexpected months hospitalized. It was such a nightmare because without Releases of Information forms from her, none of the facilities would talk to us. It was even harder because she is in California and the rest of us aren’t. A POA would have made things so much easier on all of us.

Here in MA we have healthcare proxies which are separate from POAs; I did mine years ago.
 
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My brother passed away a little over a month ago, and my sister and I have been cleaning up his estate. My sister had the POA and is the executor, but I am the back-up on both in the event she cannot do it for some reason. We have been cleaning out his apartment - he didn't have a lot, but going through all of his things is strange, and sometimes emotional.

My wife and I have had that sorted out many years ago, so good of you to bring it up as it's very important. I am also the financial POA for my step father, who is 95. Someone else has the medical POA.

Of course a will is also good - my brother wanted to update his, but didn't get the chance, so don't put off anything you want to change.
 
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I am having to go through this with my parents. My dad could go at any moment, so we have been updating the family trust. Setting up what to do with the body etc.

It is difficult when there are two children and the parents want a 50/50 split. Where it gets complicated is that one sibling may have grounds to contest the other as unfair advantage. In theory I have life occupancy, but that means my brother has to wait until I die to inherit his share of the trust.

I am told if I do not declare things like my watches, to be personal non trust property. My brothers family can claim they are part of the trust, and claim equal share. To whom does the grandfather clock belong? Furniture? Collectable tchokas? The woodworking she shed shop in the back yard?

There is a strong desire not to get rid of the stuff. Or we will deal with it later. Personally I would like to start dumping stuff, but on the other hand I am doing the opposite. Getting toys and things I lost what I had when I was younger.

Some of this is much like the market fluctuations. When does one sell off great grandpa's writing desk, Or the picture uncle whatshisname painted and has been on the wall most of one's life? Books, Records DVDs (Laserdisks. 8 Track tapes?)

In my case we (my brother's family) live on opposite coasts. My sister in law tends to ghost and gaslight people including her own family when she does not get her way. She uses access to the grandchildren as leverage. To her inheritance, will be spent on a weekend at the spa,

They came out last Christmas and all they wanted to do was party. There are also things in geriatric care which are not pleasant (You do not want to know what a suppository is.) Some people like to express emotion through primal scream therapy. There is a lot of denial at play. Or the feeling " no need to deal with it till the time comes."

Short term memory lapse also can be an issue. What happens when the person you care for thinks they are getting the wrong drugs, and the medications are causing their memory lapse. My dad wants to break out of the cycle. He gets depressed when he can not eat. (he lost many of his teeth as a young man, now the remaining are loose, and his partial dentures can not fit.) His food has to be purred. This makes it mushy and unappetizing. Even though it is different, to him it is the same thing every day. There is also the risk of asperating food and another bout of pnemonia, which weakend him in the first place.

Ironically I think the Pope is having to deal with this as well.

Finding trusted third party executors is difficult. Especially when one is in their 90s. There is so much unpredictability.

At the moment Mom has the POA. Although there are things like car registration, where things are still in Dad's name. Where they want him to come in person to change the 'ownership over.'

I am amazed even at 65 how many of my friends are gone. DEI and political opinion can also have had devastating consequence in the last half dozen years or so. Sometimes it feels like 'every man for himself.' Cousins one expected to be around and were always organizing the family gatherings are also gone. The extended family is quite large, but after three or four generations people pretty much become strangers. They have their own families and situations to deal with. I have watched cousins and friends go through what I am going through now.

My Dad's sister is 100, mom has an aunt who is like 107. They outlived some of their children.

Neighbors seem pretty helpful in the short term, but things happen and people drift apart.

I went ahead and applied for assisted (subsidies) living, There is a two year wait list (and who knows what things will be like in that time) I really do not want to give up this place. Where will I put my lathes?. I really do not want to give up the woodworking shop, even though I have not had time to use it in the last few years. All the wood stacked, dried out, and perfect for making small pipe organs. Ironically much of this came from an estate I bough 25 years ago.

Then there are the gardens. I am rooting fig trees. Planting vegetables, Wanting to work more on retaining walls, There is also home maintenance. Crack repair, plumbing and such. It is one thing when it it your's. But when you realize someone will want take it from you (becouse you can not pay taxes and extortion.) It can get quite depressing.

In the meantime, I have projects which will keep me occupied for at least 500 years ...
 
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Echo 100% about getting your POAs in order pronto. I just did mine a few weeks ago after my eldest sister spent unexpected months hospitalized. It was such a nightmare because without Releases of Information forms from her, none of the facilities would talk to us. It was even harder because she is in California and the rest of us aren’t. A POA would have made things so much easier on all of us.

Here in MA we have healthcare proxies which are separate from POAs; I did mine years ago.
I don’t know what other states have health care proxy but in MA the facility allowed me to add (co health proxies) for my mother when I was out of the country. It only required a letter signed by me.) just mentioning it as I had no clue thought I had to get a lawyer involved. The whole POA,proxy and executor is not a pleasant experience at least for me at the end I find myself second guessing everything but if we followed our loved one’s wishes as best as we could I guess it’s as good as it gets.
 
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It’s been my first chance to go back thoroughly read through these and thanks for everyone’s input and experience. Hopefully someone here will read these and take that next step forward.
It’s pretty amazing what you can find cleaning out stuff from your childhood home. My parents moved there back in 1988 so there was lots to be trashed and given away. Getting that dumpster was one of the best $500 ever spent. I’ve gotten mixed opinions on renting a dumpster. The majority of people said they would rather load up a truck and do trips to the landfill aka dump. As you all will see this dumpster can hold around 2-2.5 tons (1800-2250kgs) and I almost topped it off. Will most likely get a smaller one when I get my parents out of the house to take care of the upstairs. Yes this was just basement and some stuff under the deck (pieces of wood, old planters, broken tools). I also attribute this to OCD. My grandfather was a really bad hoarder, when he passed we counted around 40-42 TVs in a bedroom. Most were working and were sold but nothing was of great value.
I’ll say this about my parents and the generation I grew up in which was late 70’s early 80’s is they were cool as hell. They let my brother and me buy ninja weapons when it was the thing in the 80’s. We lived, have all hands and feet and didn’t lose any eyes but had some great memories. In case people are wondering that’s a Casio A168WA-1 (basically the F91W-1 but in stainless steel, if it’s even steel)

 
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On a good note I did find one watch so far. My mom’s watch from when she was a kid in the 40’s. I had never heard of Bongo the bear from Disney. It doesn’t run, the crown won’t turn to wind it up and it clicks if I turn it backwards. I know it’s not worth much, but if anyone happens to know of any watchmakers that can work on these it would be greatly appreciated to have it working for my moms. Thanks.

 
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The house next door to me (DC area) sold the other day. The owner moved to Florida full-time over a dozen years ago, and passed away 2 years ago. She did not want to stay there any more after he husband died about 15 years ago, and she could never bring herself to sorting through everything that was there. One son lives about 45 minutes away, and he and his wife were tasked for keeping up the place, while the other son and daughter -- both in Florida -- ignored it. Well, now they have less than two weeks to empty out the house prior to settlement. It's a 5 bedroom house packed with tons of family/ personal stuff that started accumulating back in 1963. I have a feeling the next 1-1/2 weeks are not going to be pretty...

On a side note, I wonder if there are any interesting watches in the house. The father and mother were both attorneys, but lived pretty modestly.
 
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Ended up finding my grandpa’s “gold” retirement watch from the phone company. Made my dad’s day. He had forgotten about it

 
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Feel your pain. Like others, we went through this with my mom. A very organized widow, she still had huge amounts of papers, collectibles and frankly, debris in the form of cardboard and "things I might someday need". It was startling how much we hauled out that ended up in dumpsters. The fact is that much of our stuff is destined for the dump. I recognize that my family will have no better idea than I do about what to do with all my precious items that I can't figure out what to do with or let go.

This can be a difficult time. It was with my mother, who also lost much of her memory in her final years. It was sad and difficult, but after she passed we were glad we tried to help, even if it didn't always seem to make a difference.

You're living proof of what makes watches different than other objects in our lives. These little chunks of metal hold a connection to loved ones like few other items.
 
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I went to an estate sale once and they said 'we have no watches or baseball cards.'

My dad just had his 93rd birthday. I guess only fictional people have no trouble putting their affairs in order. For some time we have been looking for his retirement plaques. They had fallen behind the computer office desk.