Cases for an Omega Seamaster XVI

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Hi,

So I recently bought of an ebay auction an Omega Seamaster XVI with a 471 caliber, but it didn t had a case (I know the correct spec would be a 2850, but hard to find)

Now, is anyone selling an omega case with a dog leg for a 500,501 or 505 caliber (like a 2984) or do you guys have any recommendation for a replacement case? (Silver or gold)

The dial and movement are in very nice shape (not refinished as far as I can tell) and would want to wear them (even if franken)

 
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So many gold cases being melted these days.
 
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I think the only cases that could possibly work would be those designed for the cal. 471 movement, as it is a slightly smaller diameter than the cal. 50X and 55X. There are a few listed on the Omega Database.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/vintage-watches?v_watches_calibre=3035

No guarantee that the XVI dial will fit any of the other cases listed above even if the movement fits.

Frankly, the best use of that nice original dial would be to sell it off to someone with the proper case and a bad dial (or buy their watch and do it yourself) and keep the movement for spare parts.
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I think the only cases that could possibly work would be those designed for the cal. 471 movement, as it is a slightly smaller diameter than the cal. 50X and 55X. There are a few listed on the Omega Database.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/vintage-watches?v_watches_calibre=3035

No guarantee that the XVI dial will fit any of the other cases listed above even if the movement fits.

Frankly, the best use of that nice original dial would be to sell it off to someone with the proper case and a bad dial (or buy their watch and do it yourself) and keep the movement for spare parts.
gatorcpa
Regarding the 471, it's nearly the same as the 491 with the only noteworthy difference appearing to be the diameter, the vph, movement height and power reserve are quoted as being the same most places, although that varies by source.

It looks like the only visible part on the 49x that appears to be unique from the 47x is the rotor, even the mainspring and barrel are 47x despite their being presumably room for a larger one in the 49x. Was the larger 49x version just to allow for a larger and heavier rotor with a greater leverage and torque to let the auto winding system work more efficiently than the 47x?

This is probably more of an off-topic watchmaking question but I've always wondered why these two parallel sizes exist, especially when the larger one came later, which is usually the opposite of what a watchmaker tends to do unless they have a reason.
 
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I just looked it up. Many of the parts as noted are shared with the 50x and 55x. 25mm for 47x 27.9 for 55x and 28 for 50x.

Noticed that the movement thicknesses are interesting as well. 5.5 for the 47x, 5.55 for the 50x, and only 4.5 for the 55x. I think there was a trend for thin watches at one time. Many of these were placed with dials 30mm and larger.

What this is is basically a parts movement. The sum of the parts is worth more than the movement as a whole. I find I need to bid around 35USD for most parts on online auction. Sellers tend to list some individual parts for up to 80 bucks.

Since I have the book open @dsio mentioned while I was typing in the above the 490. This is a sub seconds version, so the wheel train is a bit different as there is no sweep pinion.

Another outlier is the 570. I got a bunch of 570 parts by accident. A bunch more were listed today, but I opted not to bid. 35 by 10 is about 350 bucks, One can get a complete watch for that sort of money. Although I find such a bit boring to chasing after the elusive parts needed to complete a project.

This caliber numbering just goes to indicate that there is no pattern. 570 is 24.9 by 4.5mm so the parts are ever so much smaller, yet all these movements take a 330 yoke and a 470 pressure spring. much of the variations seem to deal with the date and setting mechanisms, so the thicker movements often had date wheels.

My guess is all these variations were for checking off marketing points. There seems to have been a lot of statistical grading in the manufacturing and marketing processes. The bits and pieces of archive data that has turned up or leaked out, indicates that a lot of this information was stored on punch cards. So Omega must have had a mainframe computer.