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novina
·Can't exactly say, but the Chronographe Suisse may be gold. Looks like it has nicks and such but no base metal showing. Would be interesting to find out anyways.
Can anyone identify this old omega watch?
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TomGW
·Also, one thing I meant to ask, when I say take it to the Omega boutique, I meant have them send it to Bienne Switzerland for repairs. Is this what everyone else understood it as? Or can you get watches repaired at the actual boutique and maybe people thought I would get the work done there?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks for all the answers. So much to know about watches and I am learning
I think most understood that you were originally thinking of Omega Bienne, via a boutique, but that's what everyone is warning against. I'm in UK and we are fortunate to have STS here locally, with easy communications with the manager who totally understands the need to be sympathetic. I would have total confidence that STS would do as much or as little as you would direct, but the more remote you are from the workshop, and the larger the corporate organisation, the less control you will have.
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amateurwatchman
·I think most understood that you were originally thinking of Omega Bienne, via a boutique, but that's what everyone is warning against. I'm in UK and we are fortunate to have STS here locally, with easy communications with the manager who totally understands the need to be sympathetic. I would have total confidence that STS would do as much or as little as you would direct, but the more remote you are from the workshop, and the larger the corporate organisation, the less control you will have.
gotchya, now i understand. So not sending to Bienne via boutique. Now i need to do a lot of research and find a reputable quality repair place in Chicago or the US.
anyone have any idea what the cost might be, for a new face, movement service, and clean up the dial? band I will need to find a nice one for it.
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Tire-comedon
·gotchya, now i understand. So not sending to Bienne via boutique. Now i need to do a lot of research and find a reputable quality repair place in Chicago or the US.
anyone have any idea what the cost might be, for a new face, movement service, and clean up the dial? band I will need to find a nice one for it.
Take care,
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amateurwatchman
·Sorry to insist but you shoudn't ask for a dial clean up. Believe me, trying to clean a dial merely always ends up with ruining it. You will not find an original replacement.
Take care,
nooo, thank you for insisting! Im new to this type of stuff so want it done right. I guess assuming the watch repairman i take it to knows what hes doing, he should also insist on not cleaning the dial! what about polishing the case? im guessing this will run around a grand?
I have emailed Nesbits and other places pictures of the watch for some rough estimates
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Tire-comedon
·Welle better have things clear with the watchmaker from the beginning, and insist that you don't want anything done to the dial (no cleaning, no reoainting). I had a very bad experience with my watchmaker who once tried to sweep a dal with a cloth and made a big scratch...). I wouldn't polish the case if it was for me, and expressly say it. A watchmaker may have his personnal opinion on what should be done or not but in the end he will do want hs client asks or what he thinks he wants if nothing was expressly requested.
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amateurwatchman
·A lot of research online told me Nesbit's is one of the best repair services in the US, but they recommended i send it in to Switzerland even... such a dilemma! lol
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentThey are saying that because they are talking about restoring the dial. If you stick with 'no dial cleaning or refinishing' then it should not be an issue. You might want to clarify your intent with them.
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amateurwatchman
·Can't exactly say, but the Chronographe Suisse may be gold. Looks like it has nicks and such but no base metal showing. Would be interesting to find out anyways.
I noticed the back was kind of loose, so i carefully removed it to check out the movement... looks cool. I think it also may be gold after looking into it. The back has: E 7,750 and some more i cant make out.
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François Pépin
·It is a Landeron cased by one if the many brands making chronos like that during the 1940-1950. Looks like a L 48.
It could be 750 solid gold (18 K). Do you have a pic of the hallmark? Should also have a head or some other Suiss mark for 18K.
It could be 750 solid gold (18 K). Do you have a pic of the hallmark? Should also have a head or some other Suiss mark for 18K.
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François Pépin
·By the way, if it is solid gold, it is good news, but those cases do not have a big amount of gold, so it is not the jackpot! These gold cases are pretty slim and thus pretty fragile. That is why they are usually reinforced by another metal subcase and dustcover.
But the Landerons are good and solid movements, with parts being easy to find and at a decent price.
But the Landerons are good and solid movements, with parts being easy to find and at a decent price.
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amateurwatchman
·By the way, if it is solid gold, it is good news, but those cases do not have a big amount of gold, so it is not the jackpot! These gold cases are pretty slim and thus pretty fragile. That is why they are usually reinforced by another metal subcase and dustcover.
But the Landerons are good and solid movements, with parts being easy to find and at a decent price.
it is gold! took it to the same jeweler i took the omega too to have them look at it. Its either 10K or 18K gold
i need to find a good magnifying glass, but i for sure see: 0,750 looks to be '66' a little underneath the 0,750. to the left of the 0,750 there is something perpendicularly written to the 0,750 but i cant make it out. it begins with '11' i think, but not positive. Ill need to have jeweler really look at it. there is also something directly about the 0,750, something like '010' or 'J10'
earlier i told you guys they quoted me $538 to restore the omega. Broken down:
complete movement overhaul AND crystal for $330
OPTIONAL: refinish dial for $208.
consensus is not to refinish the dial, so for only $330 i can have the watch running. What do you guys think? I think I may go for it, and it will come with a 1 year warranty. The local jeweler is Newstar Jewelers in Joliet IL, but they use a third party to service watches. I asked for the name of the repairman so I could look up reviews and see if he or she is reputable, but they wouldnt tell me for "security reasons". Is it really for security reasons.... or money... kind of a turn off. I would pay them more than $330 having peace of mind knowing a reputable repairman is fixing it.
complete movement overhaul and new crystal for $330.... yay or nay?
And the jeweler itself could clean up the outer case and polish it if decide to.
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchycomplete movement overhaul and new crystal for $330.... yay or nay?
Check references and feedback and try to meet them, talk to them, or otherwise establish a relationship and get a "gut" read.
Maybe run a test with a mid-value watch before exposing your genitals(hope I didn't say that out loud!).
Refinished dials are easier, look at the original, compare to the refinish and listen to your heart.
Keep in mind that you have a copy of a Michaelangelo and check your satisfaction level.
I don't like redials..... but sometimes there is no other choice.
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amateurwatchman
·Let me see the results and I'll give you the answer!
Check references and feedback and try to meet them, talk to them, or otherwise establish a relationship and get a "gut" read.
Maybe run a test with a mid-value watch before exposing your genitals(hope I didn't say that out loud!).
Refinished dials are easier, look at the original, compare to the refinish and listen to your heart.
Keep in mind that you have a copy of a Michaelangelo and check your satisfaction level.
I don't like redials..... but sometimes there is no other choice.
The lady at the jeweler wouldnt let me talk to the repairman, since i HAVE to go through the jeweler. So i cant even ask the repairman questions or anything, have to relay the info, which is dumb. Lady is like, well we have our reputation to keep, and for security reasons cant say who repairman is, and I just said i dont feel comfortable with that.. sooo i guess ill take it to some more shops for estimates .
your comment is funny and confusing, uncle buck haha
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyfunny and confusing
I'm guessing, but what I was trying to say was to get feedback and establish a relationship and then trust your gut with a test run.
I'm a little concerned because determining 10k (American cased) and 18k (European) is like the most basic of observations and normally easily determined by nomenclature and hallmarks.
Having said this, please, please don't be concerned or offended by my wording! There is little, if anything for sure in this hobby and forum posts don't always translate the senders intentions..
It is a beautiful watch and I wish you all the best.
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amateurwatchman
·Sorry, I occasionally try for funny but never for confusing!
I'm guessing, but what I was trying to say was to get feedback and establish a relationship and then trust your gut with a test run.
I'm a little concerned because determining 10k (American cased) and 18k (European) is like the most basic of observations and normally easily determined by nomenclature and hallmarks.
Having said this, please, please don't be concerned or offended by my wording! There is little, if anything for sure in this hobby and forum posts don't always translate the senders intentions..
It is a beautiful watch and I wish you all the best.
when i had them look at the gold watch, it was just briefly. I mainly went in to get info on the omega. the $330 is for the omega, not this gold watch! think you may be misunderstood? I have no clue how much it would cost to get this gold chrono working.
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyI'm not confused, I make perfect sense to me!
I was just trying to help in dealing with the lady jeweler, you have already received advice on the Omega from tire-comedon that I completely support.
Forums are tough, I am trying to be supportive and helpful and sometimes my words get in the way! My wife says I need to learn to keep my mouth shut, but.....
I was just trying to help in dealing with the lady jeweler, you have already received advice on the Omega from tire-comedon that I completely support.
Forums are tough, I am trying to be supportive and helpful and sometimes my words get in the way! My wife says I need to learn to keep my mouth shut, but.....
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorThe lady at the jeweler wouldnt let me talk to the repairman, since i HAVE to go through the jeweler.
gatorcpa
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amateurwatchman
·amen. such a shame since they were my go to and my families go to and bought a raymond weil and other stuff there before, but couldnt even tell me who was repairing it!
Fine Swiss Watch Repair (Ken is the guy) in Chicago seems to have awesome reviews across all websites and forums so will try them out.
Is your profile pic the same watch i have, but with aftermarket hands?
Fine Swiss Watch Repair (Ken is the guy) in Chicago seems to have awesome reviews across all websites and forums so will try them out.
PS/
Do not change the dial!, only get a new glass and a service, the dial isn't too bad for this reference. The watch dates from around 1939.
See here
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...2797&sid=64f0374d-6970-4f91-a732-640d1f4acb29
Is your profile pic the same watch i have, but with aftermarket hands?
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François Pépin
·I'm a little concerned because determining 10k (American cased) and 18k (European) is like the most basic of observations and normally easily determined by nomenclature and hallmarks
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I agree! And if there is a 0,750 mark, it is 18K. By the way, if it is a Suiss case, it should be 18K - but cannot be sure at that point without pictures.
Concerning the watchmaker, the jewler does probably not want you to do business directly with him... I would prefer to deal directly with the watchmaker (maybe better price but above all easier communication).
